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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6124562" data-attributes="member: 177">Honest answer: yes.&nbsp; I have no problem with &quot;the numbers&quot; - adjusting them is easy.&nbsp; But, when I convert across from 1e or 2e to 4e, I find the *function* of things change, and I find that to be problematic.&nbsp; Heck, the forced movement powers alone wreak havoc for adjusting older material, whose maps aren't designed with such stuff in mind.&nbsp; The very type of space 4e asks for is different than 1e and 2e.They most certainly do, which was the point of mentioning it.And, for me, 3e looks very much like 2e with some minor restructuring - classes, class abilities, spells, all work like I expect them to.&nbsp; But to jump to 4e, I have to wedge things into a whole new system of powers which looks, to me, nothing at all like the earlier editions.&nbsp; But most don't.&nbsp; And even the ones that do aren't, to my eye, structured at all similarly.&nbsp; It seems to come down to what sections of patterns different people more naturally latch on to.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 6124562, member: 177"] Honest answer: yes. I have no problem with "the numbers" - adjusting them is easy. But, when I convert across from 1e or 2e to 4e, I find the *function* of things change, and I find that to be problematic. Heck, the forced movement powers alone wreak havoc for adjusting older material, whose maps aren't designed with such stuff in mind. The very type of space 4e asks for is different than 1e and 2e. They most certainly do, which was the point of mentioning it. And, for me, 3e looks very much like 2e with some minor restructuring - classes, class abilities, spells, all work like I expect them to. But to jump to 4e, I have to wedge things into a whole new system of powers which looks, to me, nothing at all like the earlier editions. But most don't. And even the ones that do aren't, to my eye, structured at all similarly. It seems to come down to what sections of patterns different people more naturally latch on to. [/QUOTE]

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