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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hawken" data-source="post: 4249517" data-attributes="member: 23619">No, I'm not. What is the big deal? Why is it so "oooh, we can't have that!" regarding someone resisting or avoiding a class benefit? Undead being immune to Turning don't break the game. Spell Resistant creatures that the cleric or sorcerer or wizard can't touch, don't break the game. Hell, Iron Golems are immune to most spells and heavily resistant to damage. Yet they don't break the game. Now, "Marking" comes out, I suggest that there should be a way to avoid it or get rid of it and "no, we can't do that, that would be making someone immune to a class benefit". So what? Gimme a break, like it hasn't been done before! And I didn't state that someone would have to be immune to it. I suggested. But I also suggested a way to avoid or remove the Mark. My beef about this, and a few other things, is that there is no way to avoid or counter it and its a lame enough thing to begin with. It won't break the game to have a mechanic in there where the Mark won't work or where it can be undone. Fighter (5th level): Aha! I mark you!Fighter (10th level): I don't think so, kid. **ala MC Hammer** You can't touch this!Paladin: By the power of my deity, I challenge you to battle. **Divine Challenge**(Evil) Paladin: By the power of my mojo, kiss my codpiece! **Couldn't give a rat's butt about Divine Challenge**A more experienced fighter isn't going to get 'marked' by some rookie. He's seen all those tricks before, knows what to watch out for and likely came up with some of the moves the younger fighter is using. And the "fight me while my friends whale on you or get fried" mark of the paladin just seems rather un-paladin-like to me.</blockquote>

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