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<blockquote data-quote="Willie the Duck" data-source="post: 9802205" data-attributes="member: 6799660"><p>But how are we going to feel special if others know this thing we know (...which is the entire point of the thing in question...pertaining to one of the largest and most mainstream movie properties of all time)? This is kind of like the 'what's your favorite nerd property no one else remembers' threads we get occasionally where everyone lists the same 1-3 dozen things but treat them as divisive/rebellious hot takes.</p><p></p><p>But in all seriousness, I think there's a plausible argument that at least the series itself loses sight of the original theme. Later installments definitely lean pretty heavily instead into the theme that Rocky will take a licking, but then underdog his way into a full victory. The same happened with Stallone's other huge series, <em>Rambo</em>, in that the later movies in the series tend to ignore the personal-struggle aspect of <em>First Blood</em> and the surrender-to-make-a-point plot in favor of turning Rambo into an invincible action character. The audience remembers, but the series maybe doesn't.</p><p></p><p>Anyways, to the thread topic --</p><p>Among actually good movies or shows, I think there are:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>Clue</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>D&D:HAT</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>The Last of Us </em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">and <em>Jumanji</em>, which I think maybe shouldn't actually count. When the movie was released (or the 1981 book before it), there wasn't an actual game upon which it was based. The plot centered around a game, but the game was entirely fictional. If we include this, I'd think we'd have to include things like <em>War Games</em> and <em>The Last Starfighter</em>.</li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Willie the Duck, post: 9802205, member: 6799660"] But how are we going to feel special if others know this thing we know (...which is the entire point of the thing in question...pertaining to one of the largest and most mainstream movie properties of all time)? This is kind of like the 'what's your favorite nerd property no one else remembers' threads we get occasionally where everyone lists the same 1-3 dozen things but treat them as divisive/rebellious hot takes. But in all seriousness, I think there's a plausible argument that at least the series itself loses sight of the original theme. Later installments definitely lean pretty heavily instead into the theme that Rocky will take a licking, but then underdog his way into a full victory. The same happened with Stallone's other huge series, [I]Rambo[/I], in that the later movies in the series tend to ignore the personal-struggle aspect of [I]First Blood[/I] and the surrender-to-make-a-point plot in favor of turning Rambo into an invincible action character. The audience remembers, but the series maybe doesn't. Anyways, to the thread topic -- Among actually good movies or shows, I think there are: [LIST] [*][I]Clue[/I] [*][I]D&D:HAT[/I] [*][I]The Last of Us [/I] [*]and [I]Jumanji[/I], which I think maybe shouldn't actually count. When the movie was released (or the 1981 book before it), there wasn't an actual game upon which it was based. The plot centered around a game, but the game was entirely fictional. If we include this, I'd think we'd have to include things like [I]War Games[/I] and [I]The Last Starfighter[/I]. [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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