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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 3229172" data-attributes="member: 11697">There's very little hard information, and he/she/it has been left intentionally mysterious. The General was the first yugoloth to achieve ultroloth status, he was responsible for the purging of law and chaos from the early yugoloths (which seems either by intent or side effect to have created the Obyriths and Ancient Baatorians), and he's ultimately the major controlling influence over yugoloth involvement in the Blood War.See 2e 'Faces of Evil: The Fiends', 'Hellbound: The Blood War', and the 3e 'Manual of the Planes'[Dark Helmet]Yugoloth will always win, because daemon is dumb.[/Dark Helmet] Too much similarity to demon, and they'd built up most of the lore on them since calling them 'loths, so why change back? WotC never dropped Tanar'ri and Baatezu either, they just added back demon and devil as generic names (though this had already been done in late 2e for demons). Since the 'loths don't have subtypes beyond themselves*, there was no need to bring back daemon as a generic term.* back to that no subtypes of 'loth thing... the yugoloths and demodands (gehreleths) share a common origin, but the exact story depends on if you ask the 'loths or the 'leths. Originally the first NE fiends, the Baernaloths decided to create themselves a servitor race of fiends, and eventually they created the yugoloths. One of the Baernaloths (or three of them) went off on their own and created the Demodands (either afterwards, in imitation of the 'loths, or before, while the other Baern were still debating what to create).This renegade Baernaloth, known as Apomps the Triple Aspected, however had created his children tainted with chaos, and this disgusted his brethren, and on threat of oblivion either they expelled him, he fled their wrath, or willingly went into exile (likely forming the plane of Carceri as a side effect of his flight). The 'loths and 'leths mutually despise one another to a degree of zealotry that makes the Tanar'ri and Baatezu look like intimate and long time friends; they'll kill one another on sight such is the lingering enmity they've gained from the split between their makers.</blockquote>

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