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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 801518" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p>Actually, it <strong>is</strong> incorrect, since you didn't present your first statement as your take. You presented it as a fact, with nothing saying that that was just your take on it. In that guise, which was how I answered it, it was indeed incorrect.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, it is not the "canonically" correct take either. You may be emulating a principle seen in the MM, but for whatever reason, they chose not to bring that to bear with yugoloths and other NE fiends. You can't extend their practice to a place it doesn't go and say that, just because it seems like the MM policy, it must be canon. Doesn't work that way.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>On a sidenote, what 2E did is relevant where things remain unconverted. That said, your pointing out the "irrelevance" of my statement there is taking it totally out of context. I was saying that to bring forward the past history of the nomenclature here, not using the 2E system as a point unto itself.</p><p></p><p>Ironically, you mention that the change in 3E was intentional, but as I noted above, you don't seem to consider that perhaps the lack of applying that same change to yugoloths/daemons might have been intentional also.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As I read it, it was just a poll on the popularity of one name versus the other, that is, which was preferred, not a poll on the "how" of using them. If I misunderstood that you were just naming your way of doing it, then my bad, but you didn't say it was just your way, and any disclaimer that that was just your opinion did not go without saying.</p><p></p><p>And of course, as I said above, "following suit" with 3E conventions isn't necessarily always correct, since they aren't bound to always repeat a pattern the same way every time. They might have a reason that all NE fiends aren't "daemons".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I aim to please! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Heh, not quite, not quite. If that analogy were true, I wouldn't have had to post these further clarifications.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 801518, member: 8461"] Actually, it [B]is[/B] incorrect, since you didn't present your first statement as your take. You presented it as a fact, with nothing saying that that was just your take on it. In that guise, which was how I answered it, it was indeed incorrect. Furthermore, it is not the "canonically" correct take either. You may be emulating a principle seen in the MM, but for whatever reason, they chose not to bring that to bear with yugoloths and other NE fiends. You can't extend their practice to a place it doesn't go and say that, just because it seems like the MM policy, it must be canon. Doesn't work that way. On a sidenote, what 2E did is relevant where things remain unconverted. That said, your pointing out the "irrelevance" of my statement there is taking it totally out of context. I was saying that to bring forward the past history of the nomenclature here, not using the 2E system as a point unto itself. Ironically, you mention that the change in 3E was intentional, but as I noted above, you don't seem to consider that perhaps the lack of applying that same change to yugoloths/daemons might have been intentional also. As I read it, it was just a poll on the popularity of one name versus the other, that is, which was preferred, not a poll on the "how" of using them. If I misunderstood that you were just naming your way of doing it, then my bad, but you didn't say it was just your way, and any disclaimer that that was just your opinion did not go without saying. And of course, as I said above, "following suit" with 3E conventions isn't necessarily always correct, since they aren't bound to always repeat a pattern the same way every time. They might have a reason that all NE fiends aren't "daemons". I aim to please! :D Heh, not quite, not quite. If that analogy were true, I wouldn't have had to post these further clarifications. [/QUOTE]
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