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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 8187770" data-attributes="member: 6716779">They can target themselves with a bless spell. &nbsp;Bards get bard dice but they generally can't use them in themselves anyway and they're still a primary caster. &nbsp;Opportunity cost on primary caster buffing someone is low with spellslots. They can often buff themselves as part of it. &nbsp;Artificer isn't a primary caster, doesn't get that many infusions until later in so the opportunity cost of giving them away us a lot higher espicially for mist if the subclasses who are designed to theoretically smack something around to some extent. &nbsp;Alchemist might be an exception to that but I'm not the only one saying it's terrible.&nbsp;Look at what artificer gives up. Half caster, doesn't get a d10 hd like the others, doesn't get many spell slots (problem for alchemist) doesn't get that many infusions early on.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 8187770, member: 6716779"] They can target themselves with a bless spell. Bards get bard dice but they generally can't use them in themselves anyway and they're still a primary caster. Opportunity cost on primary caster buffing someone is low with spellslots. They can often buff themselves as part of it. Artificer isn't a primary caster, doesn't get that many infusions until later in so the opportunity cost of giving them away us a lot higher espicially for mist if the subclasses who are designed to theoretically smack something around to some extent. Alchemist might be an exception to that but I'm not the only one saying it's terrible. Look at what artificer gives up. Half caster, doesn't get a d10 hd like the others, doesn't get many spell slots (problem for alchemist) doesn't get that many infusions early on. [/QUOTE]

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