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<blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 8184070" data-attributes="member: 5142">Going back to the purpose of the OP rather than debating the prevalence of the ranking system... Do you mean the College of Eloquence bard? Interestingly, Dungeon Dudes puts the Death Cleric at C tier and the Grave Cleric at A Tier. They and their community also list Forge Cleric as S Tier, Light Cleric as A Tier, and Tempest Cleric at S Tier. So that's a quite bit of variance between your S Tier ratings and theirs. (It was before Tasha's so no subclasses from that book.) Just so we are clear, and I am using the Rogue citation as an example: What do you mean by &quot;high level&quot;? As in &quot;high level&quot; S Tier? Borderline &quot;high level&quot; A Tier - low S Tier? Or it only becomes S Tier at &quot;high level&quot;? This is unclear. I'm not sure if it's possible for so many subclasses to be S Tier. It kinda dilutes the purpose of intra-class subclass tier rankings when almost half are ranked S Tier.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aldarc, post: 8184070, member: 5142"] Going back to the purpose of the OP rather than debating the prevalence of the ranking system... Do you mean the College of Eloquence bard? Interestingly, Dungeon Dudes puts the Death Cleric at C tier and the Grave Cleric at A Tier. They and their community also list Forge Cleric as S Tier, Light Cleric as A Tier, and Tempest Cleric at S Tier. So that's a quite bit of variance between your S Tier ratings and theirs. (It was before Tasha's so no subclasses from that book.) Just so we are clear, and I am using the Rogue citation as an example: What do you mean by "high level"? As in "high level" S Tier? Borderline "high level" A Tier - low S Tier? Or it only becomes S Tier at "high level"? This is unclear. I'm not sure if it's possible for so many subclasses to be S Tier. It kinda dilutes the purpose of intra-class subclass tier rankings when almost half are ranked S Tier. [/QUOTE]

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