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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8187945" data-attributes="member: 18">Agree that 5E has a much narrower range of power than 3.XE/PF, so it matters less in theory.However, re: your example, generally if we're talking about a character's capacity to help solve a complex problem, as opposed to the capacity of a player to help solve a complex problem, then there is still some correlation with tier systems. Typically casters perform even better than their tier rating in that way, and non-casters significantly worse. Remember, talking about the character's capacity to solve problems, not the player. If anything, players of weaker/less effective classes often have to work harder to help, and are more likely to come up with the plans to solve big problems in my experience. But then often they have to be largely carried out by other PCs (esp. in earlier editions).5E combat is intended to be somewhat balanced (well, significantly balanced by RPG standards), so power does matter there. But again not as much as 3.XE/PF.Is this a joke? You know AD&amp;D lasted until 2000, right? And that the internet went huge around 1994? Amazon was founded in 1994 for goodness sake. That's the year Planescape came out!I've been discussing RPGs online since 1993. Even before that people were discussing via more primitive/specific online communication methods, back into the 1980s. By the mid-1990s, it was extremely common to have internet access, and yeah, loads of us were discussing it. Suggesting &quot;only university libraries&quot; had the internet until 2000 is absolutely wild and makes me wonder when you were born, and if it was before 1990, where you spent the 1990s!? I mean, were you in silent meditation on a hilltop in Tibet or something?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8187945, member: 18"] Agree that 5E has a much narrower range of power than 3.XE/PF, so it matters less in theory. However, re: your example, generally if we're talking about a character's capacity to help solve a complex problem, as opposed to the capacity of a player to help solve a complex problem, then there is still some correlation with tier systems. Typically casters perform even better than their tier rating in that way, and non-casters significantly worse. Remember, talking about the character's capacity to solve problems, not the player. If anything, players of weaker/less effective classes often have to work harder to help, and are more likely to come up with the plans to solve big problems in my experience. But then often they have to be largely carried out by other PCs (esp. in earlier editions). 5E combat is intended to be somewhat balanced (well, significantly balanced by RPG standards), so power does matter there. But again not as much as 3.XE/PF. Is this a joke? You know AD&D lasted until 2000, right? And that the internet went huge around 1994? Amazon was founded in 1994 for goodness sake. That's the year Planescape [I]came out[/I]! I've been discussing RPGs online since 1993. Even before that people were discussing via more primitive/specific online communication methods, back into the 1980s. By the mid-1990s, it was extremely common to have internet access, and yeah, loads of us were discussing it. Suggesting "only university libraries" had the internet until 2000 is absolutely wild and makes me wonder when you were born, and if it was before 1990, where you spent the 1990s!? I mean, were you in silent meditation on a hilltop in Tibet or something? [/QUOTE]

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