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Zeitgeist, Pathfinder 2e, the magical traditions, and alchemy [spoilers]
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<blockquote data-quote="EarthSeraphEdna" data-source="post: 7813722" data-attributes="member: 49309"><p>I know that RangerWickett has been looking into Pathfinder 2e recently, so what would the following Zeitgeistian types of magic fall under, as far as arcane vs. divine vs. occult vs. primal?</p><p></p><p>• Astrology, astronomy, and skyseeing magic? I am thinking primal, though it has always been a little strange to me that even scientific astronomy falls under primal in 4e.</p><p>• Bond of Forced Faith magic? I am thinking occult.</p><p>• Docker and notorious celebrity magic? Although it is arcane in 4e, that may only be because the 4e bard is arcane, whereas the Pathfinder 2e bard is occult.</p><p>• Duplicant magic? I am thinking occult, though I can see a case for arcane if it is dragon magic.</p><p>• Eschatologist magic? I am thinking divine or occult.</p><p>• Gidim magic, particularly hiveminds and gestalts? I am thinking occult.</p><p>• Logos magic? I am thinking occult.</p><p>• Mad shootist, steamsuit pilot, and technologist magic? I am thinking alchemical.</p><p>• Monument of war magic? I am thinking occult.</p><p>• Nethermancer magic? I am talking about those shadow-themed enemies in 4e, the nethermancers, the ambush mages, the elite occultists, and so on. I am thinking divine (shadows, in the bestiary, are divine) or occult.</p><p>• Sacrament of Apotheosis magic? I am thinking divine or occult.</p><p>• Spirit medium magic? I am thinking divine or occult.</p><p>• Technologist magic? I am thinking alchemical.</p><p>• Urban empath magic? I am thinking occult or primal.</p><p>• Vekeshi magic? I am thinking divine.</p><p></p><p>• The Axis Seal ritual? I am thinking it spans all four magical traditions.</p><p></p><p>Do these seem about right? I am trying to pin down some of the traditions I am uncertain of; I would really rather say, for example, that spirit medium magic is one or the other, but <strong>not</strong> a flexible case of either.</p><p></p><p>How would you personally handle Zeitgeist's various magics in Pathfinder 2e traditions?</p><p></p><p>For that matter, given that Pathfinder 2e divides knowledge of various planes across Arcana, Nature, Occultism, and Religion, how would they be divvied up under Zeitgeist's own cosmology?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EarthSeraphEdna, post: 7813722, member: 49309"] I know that RangerWickett has been looking into Pathfinder 2e recently, so what would the following Zeitgeistian types of magic fall under, as far as arcane vs. divine vs. occult vs. primal? • Astrology, astronomy, and skyseeing magic? I am thinking primal, though it has always been a little strange to me that even scientific astronomy falls under primal in 4e. • Bond of Forced Faith magic? I am thinking occult. • Docker and notorious celebrity magic? Although it is arcane in 4e, that may only be because the 4e bard is arcane, whereas the Pathfinder 2e bard is occult. • Duplicant magic? I am thinking occult, though I can see a case for arcane if it is dragon magic. • Eschatologist magic? I am thinking divine or occult. • Gidim magic, particularly hiveminds and gestalts? I am thinking occult. • Logos magic? I am thinking occult. • Mad shootist, steamsuit pilot, and technologist magic? I am thinking alchemical. • Monument of war magic? I am thinking occult. • Nethermancer magic? I am talking about those shadow-themed enemies in 4e, the nethermancers, the ambush mages, the elite occultists, and so on. I am thinking divine (shadows, in the bestiary, are divine) or occult. • Sacrament of Apotheosis magic? I am thinking divine or occult. • Spirit medium magic? I am thinking divine or occult. • Technologist magic? I am thinking alchemical. • Urban empath magic? I am thinking occult or primal. • Vekeshi magic? I am thinking divine. • The Axis Seal ritual? I am thinking it spans all four magical traditions. Do these seem about right? I am trying to pin down some of the traditions I am uncertain of; I would really rather say, for example, that spirit medium magic is one or the other, but [B]not[/B] a flexible case of either. How would you personally handle Zeitgeist's various magics in Pathfinder 2e traditions? For that matter, given that Pathfinder 2e divides knowledge of various planes across Arcana, Nature, Occultism, and Religion, how would they be divvied up under Zeitgeist's own cosmology? [/QUOTE]
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