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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 4934057" data-attributes="member: 4937">Well, they don't.&nbsp; Any more than Druids, Paladins, and Barbarians have a place in 'fantasy' settings.Monk and ninja's have a place in fantasy Japan.&nbsp; Druids, Barbarians and Paladins have a place in fantasy Europe.But all in conception too tightly bound to some real world culture to really be a part of a fantasy setting not tightly bound to a real world culture.I get quickly disgusted at pastiches of any sort that aren't tightly tied to a particular historical reality.&nbsp; It is IMO a failure of imagination.&nbsp; But even worse is than a pastiche is the sort of pastiche of pastiches that has become concensus/core D&amp;D.&nbsp; It would be one thing if the setting was inspired by different real world ingredients and blended together like cake batter until it was hard to tell what it was made from, but typically what you get is more like a salad bowl of mixed by wholly unchanged ingredients as if it makes perfect sense for them to all sit side beside looking exactly like things in the real world without any cultural exchange.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 4934057, member: 4937"] Well, they don't. Any more than Druids, Paladins, and Barbarians have a place in 'fantasy' settings. Monk and ninja's have a place in fantasy Japan. Druids, Barbarians and Paladins have a place in fantasy Europe. But all in conception too tightly bound to some real world culture to really be a part of a fantasy setting not tightly bound to a real world culture. I get quickly disgusted at pastiches of any sort that aren't tightly tied to a particular historical reality. It is IMO a failure of imagination. But even worse is than a pastiche is the sort of pastiche of pastiches that has become concensus/core D&D. It would be one thing if the setting was inspired by different real world ingredients and blended together like cake batter until it was hard to tell what it was made from, but typically what you get is more like a salad bowl of mixed by wholly unchanged ingredients as if it makes perfect sense for them to all sit side beside looking exactly like things in the real world without any cultural exchange. [/QUOTE]

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