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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wlmartin" data-source="post: 5632243" data-attributes="member: 6679380">ForeverSlayer - This thread seems to be another "I hate 4e so im going to shout about what is crap about it and see what attention I get"Looking through the responses, a lot of people disagree with you about.. well pretty much any anti-4e topic you keep on touting in this forum.This is pure and blatant Trolling.Visiting a forum, expressing a view that attracts a lot of "Um, no you are wrong" responses and whilst discussion is a good thing and something we are all here for, it is a very very sad man that seeks to create threads such as this in the hope to have people to talk to... The attention you are getting vs your opinion on 4e is extremely negative and whilst you seem to enjoy discussing your point in great detail and others are happy to ignore the "Don't Feed The Troll" sign around your neck, I really do pity you because everytime I see a post with your name on it.. i know that it is going to be another poor excuse for a discussion about how you dislike 4e.I just spent 20 minutes reading through comments on a YouTube Hitler Spoof (you know the one from Downfall that has him shouting at his Lieutenants) where the spoof was all about how 3.5 was better than 4e.The comments were flush with 4e vs 3.5 discussions... These discussions were actually quite valid in that YouTube upload since it was a Pro 3.5 edition video and comments made for and against the differences made sense there.They do NOT make sense here.I believe that I would speak for the majority of the members of this area of the Enworld Forums (4e discussion area) in saying that we are sick and tired of hearing people using any excuse to bash 4e.We like it... it is why we are in here and not some Pathfinder or 3.5 forum.It would be one thing if your posts were"I dislike 4e, what do you guys think about these houserules to modify my 4e game to make it more 3.5... or can you suggest some yourself"This is a positive and productive way to look at handling the issue some 4e players have which is that SOME areas of 4e arent to their liking and creating a houserule that works best to counter these issues may actually be a benefit to others who read it.Your posts however have been all about telling us what is wrong with 4e.We plain don't want to hear it.I do feel like I am repeating myself above and sorry if that is the case.I will end by asking the same polite rule I was taught as a child"If you can't say something nice, do not say anything at all"If you have productive posts to make about 4e, things that will interest other 4e players and help grow the brains and understanding of those members who read this forum then I welcome it and would love to see it.If you think about writing a post or starting a thread and before clicking "Submit Reply" read it back and say "Ah, thats too much 4e bashing in there, I had better consider my audience and make sure it is going to be received well"I am sure, ForeverSlayer you will take the above as an excuse to rehash some of your earlier points about how 4e is rubbish and rehash your anti 4e points shown in this thread but please, take it for what it is... help to stop you getting your butt kicked everytime you open your mouth!<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

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