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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wlmartin" data-source="post: 5632298" data-attributes="member: 6679380">I think the spirit of this post has been trying to highlight that it is not easy to die. D&D to me has never been about playing a Wargame.In highschool all of my mates were playing Warhammer, collecting really cool Hybrid and Space Marine figures having spent hours painting them to play it.I wasn't into that, I and a few geeks found the D&D club and we played with crappy little metal minis but the experience was overwhelming.I didnt care if i lived or died... to me it wasnt about racking up points on a scorecard. I think I died quite a lot in 2nd edition AD&D but considering that this meant I had to sit out of the game for about an hour until I could get raised somehow, I didn't like this at all.I understand that the OP isn't a sadist (i think!) and doesnt want to suicide his player so he can spend the next 2 hours of the 5 hour session bored waiting for a raise dead spell... I think it is more that he doesnt like that there is less fear of death or risk involved. I can understand that but what I do not understand is that this isnt like he is playing Monopoly and wants to switch the Brown Tiles for the Dark Blue ones... D&D is a set of core rules that if you think cleverly and tweak them you can create a game you like.Remove Second WindStart Players at 5th levelRestrict using Healing Surges to outside of CombatRestrict the amount a Healing Surge healsMake 0hp for players = deathCreate encounters with +1/+2 level monsters and decide to either include or exclude the XP/Treasure bonus for them being a higher levelThese and many other things effectively can increase the risk involved in playing the game and it doesnt take a genius to use them.There really is no argument here. If anyone including the OP doesn't agree that WotC built 4e right, post it to the WotC forum where there is a chance it could be heard and acted on... Posting it here when there is a clear remedy in House Rules is like complaining to your fellow restaurant patrons that the soup is cold... what do they care? Speak to the chef!</blockquote>

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