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<blockquote data-quote="John Crichton" data-source="post: 896936" data-attributes="member: 4779"><p>I didn't mean that the One will be immortal, I meant the Matrix will be immortal. If a program's purpose to simply keep running then there is a definate reason and motivation to keep this elaborate cycle going. The Matrix seems to be amused. Or not. Who's to know at this point.</p><p>The movie says straight out (in the form of the Oracle) that the characters have already made decisions about future events and their purpose now is to figure out why which brings the question of free will and control.</p><p></p><p>However, this is also a superhero-type trilogy with all the trappings, wrapped in some important-sounding dialogue. If this movie was truly dark and heading in the direction of no free will for the humans than there would be little point to all of this. It's about the conflict between Man vs. Machine & Man vs. Himself. They seem to be going in the direction of having control over most of the humans plugged into the Matrix, with the exception of the Anomoly or the One. The One is unable to be corrupted by the system and therefore can transcend it; there where the superpowers come in.</p><p></p><p>So in all this, the final conflict comes down to the One vs. the Matrix which in the end could be considered Man vs. Man in the form of a Machine as the Matrix has been very humanized up to this point. I would be impressed if they made the third movie much darker than I am thinking. If the final scene is seeing everyone we have seen so far still plugged into the Matrix, Neo breaking free and unable to do anything for the rest of humanity, that would be cool, to me. But I don't think that's what is going to happen. I believe the W. Bros will go for the happy ending, no matter which direction the story is going.</p><p></p><p>As as for perception being more important than reality when making a reaction, sure that can be true. But who's perception are we talking about, the Machines or Man's? I know we are referencing man since his is the protagonist, but I still contend that faith has a good deal to do with this whole puzzle of what is really going on. Is Morpheus simply being lead to believe something based on his faith that is wrong? I don't believe so. He is the movie's core and its spiritual center. He has yet to be tested and the 3rd movie will be his test. Morpheus seems to be somewhat ignorant to a good deal of the events happening because he believes in the end that his faith will win the day, which is one of the basic things that makes us human. They went out of their way to show us a very human scene (the "rave") and toss faith around a lot. That makes me think that it will be faith and to a lesser degree love that will be the determining factor. The indominable human spirit and all that. The only way that the movies are not about those things is if Man doesn't win in the end.</p><p></p><p>I have now officially filled my ramble quota for the month of May... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John Crichton, post: 896936, member: 4779"] I didn't mean that the One will be immortal, I meant the Matrix will be immortal. If a program's purpose to simply keep running then there is a definate reason and motivation to keep this elaborate cycle going. The Matrix seems to be amused. Or not. Who's to know at this point. The movie says straight out (in the form of the Oracle) that the characters have already made decisions about future events and their purpose now is to figure out why which brings the question of free will and control. However, this is also a superhero-type trilogy with all the trappings, wrapped in some important-sounding dialogue. If this movie was truly dark and heading in the direction of no free will for the humans than there would be little point to all of this. It's about the conflict between Man vs. Machine & Man vs. Himself. They seem to be going in the direction of having control over most of the humans plugged into the Matrix, with the exception of the Anomoly or the One. The One is unable to be corrupted by the system and therefore can transcend it; there where the superpowers come in. So in all this, the final conflict comes down to the One vs. the Matrix which in the end could be considered Man vs. Man in the form of a Machine as the Matrix has been very humanized up to this point. I would be impressed if they made the third movie much darker than I am thinking. If the final scene is seeing everyone we have seen so far still plugged into the Matrix, Neo breaking free and unable to do anything for the rest of humanity, that would be cool, to me. But I don't think that's what is going to happen. I believe the W. Bros will go for the happy ending, no matter which direction the story is going. As as for perception being more important than reality when making a reaction, sure that can be true. But who's perception are we talking about, the Machines or Man's? I know we are referencing man since his is the protagonist, but I still contend that faith has a good deal to do with this whole puzzle of what is really going on. Is Morpheus simply being lead to believe something based on his faith that is wrong? I don't believe so. He is the movie's core and its spiritual center. He has yet to be tested and the 3rd movie will be his test. Morpheus seems to be somewhat ignorant to a good deal of the events happening because he believes in the end that his faith will win the day, which is one of the basic things that makes us human. They went out of their way to show us a very human scene (the "rave") and toss faith around a lot. That makes me think that it will be faith and to a lesser degree love that will be the determining factor. The indominable human spirit and all that. The only way that the movies are not about those things is if Man doesn't win in the end. I have now officially filled my ramble quota for the month of May... :eek: [/QUOTE]
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