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<blockquote data-quote="TwinBahamut" data-source="post: 3850804" data-attributes="member: 32536"><p>Well, I took a day or so to cool off. time to get back to the thread. It seems some people experienced with military stuff have shown up, so I will focus more on the the literary stuff.</p><p></p><p>Nonsense. A person can understand the basic elements of a genre without ever viewing "iconic" examples of that genre. For example, someone can be familiar with the fantasy genre without ever reading Tolkien. This is especially true because the conventions of genres are flexible and change with time.</p><p></p><p>I don't watch Zombie movies. I am not a movie fan, and zombie movies tend to be B-grade movie trash, which I can't stand. However, I am familiar enough with Zombie videogames and other pop-cultural referencs to zombies (webcomics, boardgames, etc). Honestly, I think the influence of these media on the zombie genre has vastly overtaken the influence of the movies. I think I am qualified enough to speak about zombies.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I covered that in the phrase "single hero". An ordinary person who manages to overcome an extraordinary obstacle is major aspect of the idea of a "hero".</p><p></p><p></p><p>It is not the genre or the thread, really. It is more that I wasn't enjoying debating things with you. I would prefer it if you addressed my major points, rather than nitpick about my right to say anything and snipe insults at me.</p><p></p><p>Regardless, I think the fundamental problem I have with your argument and ideas is your constant denial that the battle against zombies is unwinnable. You are overly insistant about the notion that zombies can't be killed, and I think that such a notion flatly contradicts many aspects of the genre. Also, I think you are overly simplifying the concept of "a zombie", and are forgetting that there have been many portrayals of zombies, many of which have differing abilities and degrees of resistance to damage.</p><p></p><p>Regardless, if you take zombies out of the narrative perpsective, and examine a zombie outbreak from a realistic perspective (which I believe is the nature of this whole thread), then there are all kinds of problems with the idea of a global zombie apocalypse. It simply doesn't work.</p><p></p><p>Also, on one more issue... I think too much has been made of the slowness of a federal response. To continue the comparison to the current wildfires in Southern California, the speed of local government response is not to be underestimated. I saw the firefighters battling those wildfires with my own eyes, within hours of the fire's outbreak. Considering that the average person is better equiped to fight a zombie than a massive wildfire, I would imagine that the average zombie outbreak would be contained very quickly. Overall, I think wildfires and common diseases have greater potential for wide destruction than a zombie outbreak, if you look at things realistically.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TwinBahamut, post: 3850804, member: 32536"] Well, I took a day or so to cool off. time to get back to the thread. It seems some people experienced with military stuff have shown up, so I will focus more on the the literary stuff. Nonsense. A person can understand the basic elements of a genre without ever viewing "iconic" examples of that genre. For example, someone can be familiar with the fantasy genre without ever reading Tolkien. This is especially true because the conventions of genres are flexible and change with time. I don't watch Zombie movies. I am not a movie fan, and zombie movies tend to be B-grade movie trash, which I can't stand. However, I am familiar enough with Zombie videogames and other pop-cultural referencs to zombies (webcomics, boardgames, etc). Honestly, I think the influence of these media on the zombie genre has vastly overtaken the influence of the movies. I think I am qualified enough to speak about zombies. I covered that in the phrase "single hero". An ordinary person who manages to overcome an extraordinary obstacle is major aspect of the idea of a "hero". It is not the genre or the thread, really. It is more that I wasn't enjoying debating things with you. I would prefer it if you addressed my major points, rather than nitpick about my right to say anything and snipe insults at me. Regardless, I think the fundamental problem I have with your argument and ideas is your constant denial that the battle against zombies is unwinnable. You are overly insistant about the notion that zombies can't be killed, and I think that such a notion flatly contradicts many aspects of the genre. Also, I think you are overly simplifying the concept of "a zombie", and are forgetting that there have been many portrayals of zombies, many of which have differing abilities and degrees of resistance to damage. Regardless, if you take zombies out of the narrative perpsective, and examine a zombie outbreak from a realistic perspective (which I believe is the nature of this whole thread), then there are all kinds of problems with the idea of a global zombie apocalypse. It simply doesn't work. Also, on one more issue... I think too much has been made of the slowness of a federal response. To continue the comparison to the current wildfires in Southern California, the speed of local government response is not to be underestimated. I saw the firefighters battling those wildfires with my own eyes, within hours of the fire's outbreak. Considering that the average person is better equiped to fight a zombie than a massive wildfire, I would imagine that the average zombie outbreak would be contained very quickly. Overall, I think wildfires and common diseases have greater potential for wide destruction than a zombie outbreak, if you look at things realistically. [/QUOTE]
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