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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 7190122" data-attributes="member: 6787650"><p>If I had to conjecture, I'd say it's because it rarely comes up in actual play. Anything with DC 20+ is an ancient dragon or similar high-CR creature; and we have reason to suppose that most play takes place at low levels. It may not even occur.</p><p></p><p>Besides, there is little difference in practice between failing 95% and 100% of the time. It doesn't cause behavior changes the way auto-success does. Either way you're going to avoid subjecting yourself to the effect. With auto-success on the other hand, you can now subject yourself to the effect freely. You're a wizard holding up a Wall of Force in a vampire in the face of kobold arrow fire? Well, with +9 on your saves due to Resilient (Con) and a paladin buddy, there's no rush. They can't free the vampire no matter how hard they hit you, unless you run out of HP. No need to panic and Meteor Swarm them, just calmly take them out with Fire Bolt one at a time, Shielding the occasional hits. It's a game changer.</p><p></p><p>Sent from my Moto G (4) using <a href="http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=93205" target="_blank">EN World mobile app</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 7190122, member: 6787650"] If I had to conjecture, I'd say it's because it rarely comes up in actual play. Anything with DC 20+ is an ancient dragon or similar high-CR creature; and we have reason to suppose that most play takes place at low levels. It may not even occur. Besides, there is little difference in practice between failing 95% and 100% of the time. It doesn't cause behavior changes the way auto-success does. Either way you're going to avoid subjecting yourself to the effect. With auto-success on the other hand, you can now subject yourself to the effect freely. You're a wizard holding up a Wall of Force in a vampire in the face of kobold arrow fire? Well, with +9 on your saves due to Resilient (Con) and a paladin buddy, there's no rush. They can't free the vampire no matter how hard they hit you, unless you run out of HP. No need to panic and Meteor Swarm them, just calmly take them out with Fire Bolt one at a time, Shielding the occasional hits. It's a game changer. Sent from my Moto G (4) using [URL=http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=93205]EN World mobile app[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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