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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AuraSeer" data-source="post: 1022141" data-attributes="member: 1331">That converted monster is clearly designed for epic play. It has a CR of 32, which means any nonepic party should be quickly annihilated. Nonepic PCs cannot defeat the SR or DR, and therefore have no way to deal damage except in the most unusual circumstances. This does make sense in the game world; the real Zuggtmoy is a major demon, the ruler of one of the planes of the Abyss, and has a power level matching that of some deities. She should be able to kill most mortals without half trying.If you want a tough but reasonable challenge for 8th-level PCs, you need a much weaker version of the monster-- call it an "Avatar Of Zuggtmoy" or some such, and put it in the neighborhood of CR 11.</blockquote>