Converting original D&D and Mystara monsters

[Shade]

Updated.

Suggested weapon for the attack lines?

For skills, I'm thinking throw all ranks into Concentration to ensure it succeeds with its SLA.

For the feat, Ability Focus (charm person)? It really is a one-trick pony, after all.

 

[freyar]

Just a dagger. They're not big fighters.

What if we up the CL to 10 and give it Quicken SLA? (I'm still smarting from Paizo developer comments about Ability Focus. )

 

[Cleon]

Cha 14 sounds right.

Good.

As for what weapons we fancy for them, I was thinking something better than a dagger.

The original description says they're created with skill in 1 melee weapon and 1 missile weapon, and I'm thinking these might be martial weapons. I suppose we don't want anything unusual or expensive for these.

Plain old shortsword and shortbow?

 

[Shade]

What if we up the CL to 10 and give it Quicken SLA? (I'm still smarting from Paizo developer comments about Ability Focus. )

That seems a bit much. If you're opposed to Ability Focus, let's at least go with a racial bonus. It's their one schtick.

Plain old shortsword and shortbow?

I'm on-board with shortsword, but the bow feels "too martial" for these charmers. How about a light crossbow?

 

[Cleon]

That seems a bit much. If you're opposed to Ability Focus, let's at least go with a racial bonus. It's their one schtick.

13 seems a reasonable DC for such a low-level beastie, so I am not that bothered about increasing it. Then again, I have no real objection to increasing it with Ability Focus (charm person).

Increasing its CL enough to give it Quicken SLA (charm person) is tempting, since it'll allow it to charm-and-suggest in the same round.

I couldn't think of anything else that much suits it apart from Combat Casting.

So, I guess I'll leave it to you lot to decide, since I haven't got any strong feelings about its feat.

I'm on-board with shortsword, but the bow feels "too martial" for these charmers. How about a light crossbow?

Light crossbow's fine by me.

 

[freyar]

Xbow and shortsword are ok.

If push comes to shove, any of the 3 selected feats are ok, so I'll leave that up to you, Shade.

 

[Shade]

Let's go with Combat Casting and leave it up to individual DM's if they wish to increase the DC via Ability Focus.

Updated.

Organization: Solitary or x. (The original text denotes just a single one, but I could see a spellcaster creating more than one of the same type, or even mixed types).

Challenge Rating: x

Treasure: No coins; double goods (gems only); double items? (Type U in both editions was no coins, many gems and jewels and magic items).

Advancement: x (Nothing seems to indicate they'd be bigger, although I suppose a giant spellcaster would make one in its image).

A magen is 6 feet tall and weighs x pounds. (Remember, they're made of jell-o ).

 

[freyar]

CR 1 or 2.

Treasure sounds right.

I'd go 3-4 HD (Medium), 6-8 HD (Large).

Jello's mostly water, like people, so 175-200 lb?

I'd like both single-type and mixed-type groupings of 2-8 or 12, but I don't have a good idea for a name!

 

[Cleon]

CR 1 or 2.

Treasure sounds right.

I'd go 3-4 HD (Medium), 6-8 HD (Large).

Challenge Rating 2. That Charm and suggest could be nasty.

Treasure sounds fine.

I'd prefer to keep them the same size, so 3-6 HD (Medium).

Jello's mostly water, like people, so 175-200 lb?

I'd like both single-type and mixed-type groupings of 2-8 or 12, but I don't have a good idea for a name!

5-6 feet tall and 120-200 pounds?

Organization: Solitary or concoction (2-12 magen of different types) ?

 

[freyar]

I think the fluff has them all at 6ft already.

Either advancement is ok.

I like the concoction, but I'd also like a single-type org. Maybe a "brew" for 2-8 hypnos magen?