Pathfinder 1E [OOC] Pathfinder: Jade Regent

[jkason]

Doh. While we were playing, the others started the adventure without us.

This is what I was afraid of ...

 

[Kaodi]

I was not really expecting the sparring to become a time consuming thing. Maybe not even a rolled thing when I first said it. I have an in character response ready for when they meet up again though, .

 

[Shayuri]

lol yeah, probably shouldn't have played it out that way.

Ah well, live and learn. Seems like the GM has it in hand for the nonce.

 

[Guest 11456]

I will be away from May 1 thru May 7 with limited internet access.

 

[Guest 11456]

Went on vacation then returned to lots of work. I will update soon.

 

[perrinmiller]

Cool. I agree with jkason and we can move along.

 

[Binder Fred]

Aaah! A cliffhanger!

<Charlton Heston> Damn you, Tailspinner! Damn you all to heck! </Charlton Heston>

 

[Kaodi]

[MENTION=11456]Tailspinner[/MENTION] I have not really played a reach weapon user before I think so it never occurred to me until just now (or at least for the first time in a long time) the issue with threatening diagonals with a reach weapon. Apparently in v3.5 it is explicitly mentioned that reach weapons are an exception to the diagonal distance counting rule, but for whatever reason that rule is not mentioned in Pathfinder, and I am not clear on whether it is intentional or an oversight.

Will I be able hit (and threaten) something two diagonal squares away like in v3.5, or do we stick to the pure RAW?

 

[Guest 11456]

[MENTION=11456]Tailspinner[/MENTION] I have not really played a reach weapon user before I think so it never occurred to me until just now (or at least for the first time in a long time) the issue with threatening diagonals with a reach weapon. Apparently in v3.5 it is explicitly mentioned that reach weapons are an exception to the diagonal distance counting rule, but for whatever reason that rule is not mentioned in Pathfinder, and I am not clear on whether it is intentional or an oversight.

Will I be able hit (and threaten) something two diagonal squares away like in v3.5, or do we stick to the pure RAW?

I have given this a lot of thought and decided that you do not threaten two diagonals with a reach weapon.

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..TTT..
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[perrinmiller]

Tailspinner I have not really played a reach weapon user before I think so it never occurred to me until just now (or at least for the first time in a long time) the issue with threatening diagonals with a reach weapon. Apparently in v3.5 it is explicitly mentioned that reach weapons are an exception to the diagonal distance counting rule, but for whatever reason that rule is not mentioned in Pathfinder, and I am not clear on whether it is intentional or an oversight.

Will I be able hit (and threaten) something two diagonal squares away like in v3.5, or do we stick to the pure RAW?

I have seen the discussions on this, it was not a mistake. If you search the Pazio boards you can see how it is ruled.

[sblock=From the Developers]Can you or can you not attack diagonally at a distance of 2x squares (15'=10' exception) with a reach weapon?

James Jacobs: Nope. A reach weapon gives a specific extension to your reach. When you count out squares, since every other square is doubled when you count diagonally, that means that there’ll be corners where you can’t reach.

Sean K. Reynolds: It's an artifact of the grid. The closest the rules come to addressing this is in Large, Huge, Gargantuan, and Colossal Creatures, which says:
Unlike when someone uses a reach weapon, a creature with greater than normal natural reach (more than 5 feet) still threatens squares adjacent to it. A creature with greater than normal natural reach usually gets an attack of opportunity against you if you approach it, because you must enter and move within the range of its reach before you can attack it.
So just because the grid has a square for "15 feet away" and a square for "5 feet away," but no square for "10 feet away," using that corner path doesn't mean you're magically teleporting from 15 feet to 5 feet; you are passing through a 10-foot-radius band around the creature, and therefore you provoke an AOO.
Admittedly it's not clear, and obviously it doesn't have the diagram in the 3E book to provide a non-textual example, but it's supposed to work as I described above.[/sblock]