Maxperson
Morkus from Orkus
No.Can't the same thing be said about a WoTC product?
No.Can't the same thing be said about a WoTC product?
Please present evidence to support this claim. Thanks.
No, the whole point of "putting the power back in the DMs hands" is not so that DMs will not allow fan-created material. That doesn't even make any sense, given that anything the DM makes up or alters using the power put in their hands is by definition fan-created material.Is that not the whole point of putting the power back in the DMs hands?
Player's trying to "force" the DM to use material is a completely separate issue from what material a DM chooses to make a blanket dismissal of. No one should "force" anyone at the table to do anything they don't want to - but ideally everyone at the table will still be getting what they want.So that the players can not force the Dm to use material that they do not want to use by having everything classified as "core"?
How or why can't it?
It's generally not balanced or very good. That's what's wrong with it. 3e proved that in spades. I have neither the time, nor inclination to spend hours pouring through a 3rd party product BEFORE I buy it(if I even can) in order to see if it's both good and not terribly overbalanced. I also can't really rely on reviews, because tastes vary so much and often people behind products get friends to say how great it is, even when it isn't.
That's probably why the OP wanted that stuff excluded.
Player's trying to "force" the DM to use material is a completely separate issue from what material a DM chooses to make a blanket dismissal of. No one should "force" anyone at the table to do anything they don't want to - but ideally everyone at the table will still be getting what they want.
Yes.Can't the same thing be said about a WoTC product?
Indeed, some of the worst offenders for balance issues being introduced into the game were from WotC products themselves. Full blade wielding psionic half-giants and crap like that.
And on the flip side some of the best stuff to come out of 3e were third party products. Mearls and his work on Iron Kingdoms comes to mind.
No, the whole point of "putting the power back in the DMs hands" is not so that DMs will not allow fan-created material. That doesn't even make any sense, given that anything the DM makes up or alters using the power put in their hands is by definition fan-created material.
You've clearly confused two unrelated DM-imposed regulations, because Corwin was talking about "No fan-made stuff" and you are clearly (thanks to the below quoted portion) talking about "Core only" - a thing that some DMs used to try and keep their 3rd/3.5 game in line because the core game was already fragile enough without trying to figure out how to add on more bits without causing the game to collapse under its own weight.
Player's trying to "force" the DM to use material is a completely separate issue from what material a DM chooses to make a blanket dismissal of. No one should "force" anyone at the table to do anything they don't want to - but ideally everyone at the table will still be getting what they want.
You are very clearly either equating "fan-created" and "non-core", or are assuming that if someone is opposed to one source of material that they are inherently opposed to another. Hence my belief that you have confused those things as being related in a way that they aren't.No I do not think anything has been "confused".
Look no further:
http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/march-2016-review
http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/may-dungeon-masters-guild-review
That should get you started.