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The Queen has died

delericho

Legend
Yes. Sorry if I didnt make that clear? Heir to the throne ( George or sibling) could do with being in his 20s and have lived a bit before taking on the duties as " heir to the throne". So Charles needs a good 15 years at least as king
Ah, I see.

I don't think it matters. Charles became heir at 4. At that age, the 'job' is essentially nonexistent.
 

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Nutation

Explorer
So many amazing facts and superlatives from her life - the number of PMs during her reign (15), the number of world leaders she met (uncounted). The Trucker reported her death because she was one of them, a big truck driver.
Here's one that stick out to me, she was on the cover of TIME Magazine in 1929!
 

Davies

Legend
Yes. Sorry if I didnt make that clear? Heir to the throne ( George or sibling) could do with being in his 20s and have lived a bit before taking on the duties as " heir to the throne". So Charles needs a good 15 years at least as king
... not impossible, as he could easily live to be 88, but not likely. (On the other side, though, "abdication" is a swear word to his family, so.)
 

Tonguez

A suffusion of yellow
Huh, I have long seen assertions that he was going to avoid his birth name as his regnant name because he wanted to avoid association with the Stuart Kings Charles, one of whom was beheaded and the other of whom was (I have read) a notorious philanderer. I guess all that must have been speculation! Charles III it is, I guess!

In any case, I extend my sympathy for all those grieving.
Lets hope its not prophetic, I do think that William would do a better job as the Monarchy does need a big injection of charisma and goodwill right now. A younger, but mature man (like William) would garner more support in my opinion.

but yes Queen Liz has had a long and illustrious career, my mother is a royalist, and I too respect her for what she has done in her role
 

MarkB

Legend
Lets hope its not prophetic, I do think that William would do a better job as the Monarchy does need a big injection of charisma and goodwill right now. A younger, but mature man (like William) would garner more support in my opinion.
Yeah, Charles has been an heir for longer than most kings have lived. Is he he oldest person to become king?
 

Nutation

Explorer
Yeah, Charles has been an heir for longer than most kings have lived. Is he he oldest person to become king?
In the UK, yes. There may be more extreme examples elsewhere. He was also 3 when his mother became monarch, so he's had 70 years as the presumptive heir.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
Supporter
I disagree in the modern age. And it didn't do him any favours being heir at a young age. Not good for a person.

We might look at child move and TV starts for some idea of how impactful it can be. The experience would be different, obviously - there's a whole government there to make sure you don't publicly flame out. But in terms of magnitude, it might be a starting place.
 


In the UK, yes. There may be more extreme examples elsewhere. He was also 3 when his mother became monarch, so he's had 70 years as the presumptive heir.

He might very well be the worldwide contender. It was rare in the past to reach a very old age and precedents are more common to have a long-lived ruler outliving his children and have the crown pass to grandsons. On the other hand, he's probably beaten by many elected leaders as the oldest person to become head of state.

To put things in perspective, 80% of the world population is younger than the length of Elizabeth II's reign, so for a huge majority of people, she has been the queen "forever".
 

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