I think they should fix everything and sell it. I'd be 90% likely to buy it on dndbeyond....I'm thinking all Wizards of the Coast subclasses not already in the PH 2024
I think they should fix everything and sell it. I'd be 90% likely to buy it on dndbeyond....I'm thinking all Wizards of the Coast subclasses not already in the PH 2024
"need" vs improved are two different things.I don’t think they should reprint any extant subclasses, either in the PHB or elsewhere, with the possible exception of redoing subclasses that didn’t hit the mark in their first iteration.
If subclasses need to be “redone” to be usable with revised 5e classes, then they failed to hit the mark in terms of backwards compatibility.
100%I said no, but I'd say yes if there was more to it. A pure reprint book would annoy me, even if things were errata'ed and rebalanced. I'd want something new. So ... would I buy a "Expanded Players Handbook" with revised subclasses, and new ones and the Artificer and maybe another class? Yes
What about 2014 PHB subclasses? Those would go out of print when the new core books are released.I don’t think they should reprint any extant subclasses, either in the PHB or elsewhere, with the possible exception of redoing subclasses that didn’t hit the mark in their first iteration.
January 2025 feels like the latest we'll see such a product.I would much prefer a consolidated book to spreading them over several books, which I feel is the alternative. A player-focused expansion book a la Tasha's or Xanathar's (with a dash of MotM) in 2026 (say) would be what I'd expect.
My expectation is that the PHB should be just as much expansion for the 5e line as a whole as it is a retrenchment of the line. Ideally, with 48 subclasses, I'd like to see about 1/4 PHB redux (for subclasses than need changes), 1/4 redux of subclasses from pre-existing material (TCoE, XGtE, primarily), and 1/2 novel ideas.What about 2014 PHB subclasses? Those would go out of print when the new core books are released.
I don't consider subclasses simply moving levels to be a major point of conversion. I also expect the new PHB will have conversion material to explain the necessary minor changes to use pre-2024 subclasses with 2024 classes.So it sounds like if they stick with all subclasses being moved to 3rd level, like the Life Cleric does, or subclass features change levels, you think it is a forgone conclusion that they missed the mark completely?
Well, that's a hypothetical world. At the moment, plenty of people still buy the hardcover books. (Cue all the folks posting Amazon stats.)In a world where the primary channel of release is going to be digital, the fact that some material isn't in "print" ceases to be an issue.
Yeah, they specifically said they'd include this in the PHB at the summit, which is nice.I don't consider subclasses simply moving levels to be a major point of conversion. I also expect the new PHB will have conversion material to explain the necessary minor changes to use pre-2024 subclasses with 2024 classes.