"The Marvels" - Teaser

[Tonguez]

Insecure man-baby disciples of Andew Tate and his ilk are angry about anything with strong, independent female leads.

No idea who Andrew Tate is and dont want to google for fear of where such dark roads lead…

 

[Ryujin]

No idea who Andrew Tate is and dont want to google for fear of where such dark roads lead…

No, you really don't.

 

[Homicidal_Squirrel]

The second half should have been a season 2 instead. Season 1 should have been just she's learning her powers, making mistakes, and like in the first half.

I think part of the problem is that there are so few episodes, and the show is setting up for a movie. Doesn't allow for too much character development and villain development. It's unfortunate as Kamala is a fun character. Marvel's issue is that it has a villain problem. That problem is that they kill all the villains... or feel the need to kill all the villains. Can't let them escape and do villainy another day. So they rush the villains into the show and rush the villains getting merked.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

No idea who Andrew Tate is and dont want to google for fear of where such dark roads lead…

Do so in anonymous mode if you must, but the way meta-cookies work, you may still have that garbage all over your internet experience afterward.

He's basically what wannabe tough guys and wannabe cool guys think a tough and cool guy is. He is neither. He's just a deeply insecure misogynist who may be going to prison soon, where he will soon discover just how tough he is not.

 

[Homicidal_Squirrel]

Are there people who weren't pleased with Quantumania?

I liked Quantumania, but I wasn't overly pleased by it. My issue with the movie was that it was a movie that would never have happened if the characters had just communicated. If Kang explained to Janet why he needed to do what he does, she would probably have gone along with it. If Janet had explained to her family why the shouldn't go into the quantum realm, Kathryn wouldn't have built her plot device. Communication... destroyer of plots.

The Marvels looks good though.

 

[Umbran]

If Kang explained to Janet why he needed to do what he does, she would probably have gone along with it.

His reason amounts to, "If I don't control the universe, I destroy the universe," which wasn't persuasive in Loki, so I don't know why it would be persuasive here.

 

[Staffan]

I think part of the problem is that there are so few episodes, and the show is setting up for a movie. Doesn't allow for too much character development and villain development. It's unfortunate as Kamala is a fun character. Marvel's issue is that it has a villain problem. That problem is that they kill all the villains... or feel the need to kill all the villains. Can't let them escape and do villainy another day. So they rush the villains into the show and rush the villains getting merked.

That's why I think TV shows is generally a much better way to adapt comic books to live action. The serialization matters, and encourages somewhat longer narratives and reuse of villains. There's a reason most superheros have a "rogue's gallery" which keeps turning up over and over again.

 

[Tonguez]

I liked Quantumania, but I wasn't overly pleased by it. My issue with the movie was that it was a movie that would never have happened if the characters had just communicated. If Kang explained to Janet why he needed to do what he does, she would probably have gone along with it. If Janet had explained to her family why the shouldn't go into the quantum realm, Kathryn wouldn't have built her plot device. Communication... destroyer of plots.

The Marvels looks good though.

Heh, the lack of clear communication is the most realistic part of the entire movie! Unfortunately humans arent very good at being frank and upfront about things.
Afterall Kang was trying to hide somethings from his past and Janet had just been through decades of seperation trauma (and living with giant bugs)

 

[Clint_L]

So, it's a problem with the actress and not the film itself? I suppose that could make a little sense. I know she riled up a bunch of people with some comments she made on the last Marvel film she was the star in (Captain Marvel), but I haven't heard that she had done anything else that big recently. I would think that time would have buried that dagger perhaps...but then...perhaps not I suppose.

She didn't rile anybody up. They got riled up because she had the temerity to express a worldview in which women got paid the same as men. This review bombing type-stuff doesn't seem to affect much but it gives those types another means to troll.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

I think that's rapidly becoming an old excuse. MCU fatigue seems to be a real thing. The usual suspects were gonna crap all over it regardless but I think they're losing the casuals as well.

These are two different and separate problems occurring at the same time, I don't see any evidence they're interrelated.

The downvotes are because of active misogyny, which so far, doesn't seem to have hurt the box office or viewership of any Marvel shows or movies.

MCU fatigue is real, but it's more the result of a lot a string of so-so MCU movies than something that had to happen. If the recent MCU output had all been good movies on their own rights, I don't think it'd be as much of an issue. But they haven't been. People try and rationalize it as failure to advance the metaplot or whatever, and there may or may not be some truth in that, but the reality is, I'd suggest, it's been a long time since we saw a genuinely exciting or surprising MCU movie which didn't have Spider-Man in the title.

GotG3 should change that, but it's not going to excite people for the MCU generally, esp. as it's a send-off movie. But maybe Captain America: New World Order and Thunderbolts will be good? What I've heard re: Cap:NWO doesn't sound great, sadly, but rumours can be very wrong.