Picard Season 3

[Paul Farquhar]

Imagine Discovery without the Discovery characters.

No one would notice the difference, since no one cares about the Discovery characters. In 25 years absolutely no one will be getting excited about a Disco reunion show.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Part of the problem was viewers like me couldn't watch episodes of Enterprise as they came out. Our UPN affiliate was a fairly weak and distant UHF broadcaster and we didn't have cable. The three prior Treks, all of which made it to seven seasons, had been fully available to me because they were syndicated. Had Enterprise been syndicated, I believe it would have done much better. But it was saddled with having to be the flagship of UPN, exclusively.

These things go together. If Enterprise had been unmissable event TV, there would have been a lot of pressure to make sure it was available. But no one is going to go to a lot of trouble to watch a meh show.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I don't think acting styles have fundamentally changed that much from 1980s to now.

I think TV acting has changed from 60/70s to now though. The first time I saw TOS our TV set was small, grainy and black and white. You had to act big for the viewer to see. There was no point in using micro-expressions to convey emotion, because they wouldn't be visible on the TVs of the day (apart from very expensive ones). It was like acting for a huge auditorium, rather than a small intimate theatre.

 

[delericho]

Yeah ENT broke me of the Star Trek habit. I mean, VOY did a lot of damage, but ENT was the finishing move.

Funnily enough, I'm the reverse - I watched all of ENT as it came out, but dropped out of VOY partway through.

That's only partly Voyager's fault, though - it went on a season break after season 5 (following the first part of the "Equinox" two-parter), and then the BBC didn't really advertise its return properly. By the time I realised it was back, I'd missed the second part, and decided I couldn't be bothered with it anyway. I still haven't watched most of those last two seasons, despite them still being available on Netflix in the UK.

 

[delericho]

I think TV acting has changed from 60/70s to now though. The first time I saw TOS our TV set was small, grainy and black and white. You had to act big for the viewer to see. There was no point in using micro-expressions to convey emotion, because they wouldn't be visible on the TVs of the day (apart from very expensive ones). It was like acting for a huge auditorium, rather than a small intimate theatre.

This is also why so much modern TV is so dark, and why there are periodic complaints about the cast mumbling their way through the show - screens, microphones, and speakers have advanced so far that these are now more easily dealt with.

The problem being that a lot of "TV" is now consumed on much smaller screens, and those who do still watch on TV don't necessarily have particularly good setups.

 

[Hussar]

Yeah that’s a good point.

I’ve never rematches Enterprise. Like at all. I’ve seen reruns of all the others many times. Enterprise I watched once and that was it.

 

[bushmills]

Yes, ENT is enough to watch once, while DS9 or some episodes of TNG make it into the rerun more often. VOY started quite well, but the ending and the endless resources made the whole thing a bit exhausting. I watched PIC 1 and tried to like the 2nd season, but it just wasn't my cup of tea. Possibly season 3 is really better, but there is in the circle of acquaintances rather the opposite to hear. With the sparse free time you just have to manage well.

 

[ART!]

Paramount's network was a failure because the best it could do, was a show like "Enterprise." I watched every episode, as they came out. It's what convinced me that I really don't have to do that, just because a show has "Star Trek" on the label.

DS9 did that for me.

Before people's heads explode: for whatever reason, somewhere in season 6 I felt like I was just watching it because it had "Star Trek" in the name. I just had lost interest. Go figure.

But!!!

A few years later a friend sold me on finishing up the series and loaned me his VHS (?!?!) tapes to do so. And I dug it!
I'm still not the DS9 fan that a lot of people are, but at least now I get it.

No one would notice the difference, since no one cares about the Discovery characters.

This is objectively not true. Over the years I've seen an awful lot of fan adulation for this show, on social media. It began the new tv era of Trek. I'm not crazy about the show myself, but it has a lot of fans.

 

[Micah Sweet]

DS9 did that for me.

Before people's heads explode: for whatever reason, somewhere in season 6 I felt like I was just watching it because it had "Star Trek" in the name. I just had lost interest. Go figure.

But!!!

A few years later a friend sold me on finishing up the series and loaned me his VHS (?!?!) tapes to do so. And I dug it!
I'm still not the DS9 fan that a lot of people are, but at least now I get it.

This is objectively not true. Over the years I've seen an awful lot of fan adulation for this show, on social media. It began the new tv era of Trek. I'm not crazy about the show myself, but it has a lot of fans.

I would love to know what exactly these fans like about Discovery, because I really don't get it, especially the first two seasons.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I would love to know what exactly these fans like about Discovery, because I really don't get it, especially the first two seasons.

Discovery fans are like the yeti. I've heard about them but no one has ever met one.