Whistle blower says non-human bodies recovered from crash

[Ryujin]

or
Came here and went "eww" and made this whole area of space off limits

"Whatever you do, don't go there. You might catch something."

 

[Reynard]

I know it isn't what's happening but I kind of like the idea that They have decided to finally make their presence known because they see us as a "younder" version of their own civilization and are watching us run headlong toward the Great Filter. They don't want us to smash ourselves against in, like maybe they have seen other civilizations do, like maybe they themselves almost did (or would have done without some outside intervention).

Fantasy, I know, but it is a comforting thought in the face of the collapse of western democracy and civilization destroying climate change both looming over us.

 

[Ryujin]

I know it isn't what's happening but I kind of like the idea that They have decided to finally make their presence known because they see us as a "younder" version of their own civilization and are watching us run headlong toward the Great Filter. They don't want us to smash ourselves against in, like maybe they have seen other civilizations do, like maybe they themselves almost did (or would have done without some outside intervention).

Fantasy, I know, but it is a comforting thought in the face of the collapse of western democracy and civilization destroying climate change both looming over us.

Let's just hope that when they do show up and land on the White House lawn, we don't shoot them for trying to gift is the cure for cancer.

 

[trappedslider]

Let's just hope that when they do show up and land on the White House lawn, we don't shoot them for trying to gift is the cure for cancer.

oh sure you mess up one time......

 

[GreyLord]

So, I may not be a military pilot, but I've flown a plane for many years.

I HAVE seen what people may say were UFOs.

NOTHING I've seen has convinced me that they had an alien/non-terran origin. In fact, everything I've seen except one has eventually been able to be explained by tech we have or instrument malfunctions. The single one that I saw that isn't explained that way was a big round object out of the corner of my eye that disappeared rapidly. No idea what it was, but it was at noon and for all I know it was my eyes playing tricks on me.

You have loonies in all fields of life who want to claim things that are ridiculous to most. If there were aliens visiting earth, it would be much like the Chinese Weather Balloon over the US or Foreign Aircraft that are spotted by others. The rest of the world would know it as Aliens from another place in the Galaxy are not beholden to the US (or any) government on this world and it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY that they would respect such meager bonds that we put between ourselves. I don't think this would be something any government could actually keep a lid on. It DEFINATELY would not be just restricted to US airspace and the US government. Others would know, and with something that broad, others who would not keep a secret of that degree.

 

[Umbran]

Hell, even a planet, a FTL civ can’t yeet ice moons at rocky planets and seed a fast growing atmosphere-building algae to help turn that water into atmosphere? Like, we can’t, but we aren’t an FTL civilization.

Even if we accept FTL travel as possible, that doesn't imply that terraforming a world is manageable.

 

[Reynard]

Even if we accept FTL travel as possible, that doesn't imply that terraforming a world is manageable.

I wonder what takes longer: finding an alien biome that could support your species, or altering a "close" one to fit.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I wonder what takes longer: finding an alien biome that could support your species, or altering a "close" one to fit.

Convincing civilizations that have spent a hundred thousand years aboard a generation ship to leave it and settle on a semi-hostile planet.

 

[Reynard]

Convincing civilizations that have spent a hundred thousand years aboard a generation ship to leave it and settle on a semi-hostile planet.

Well, the question was about FTL vs terraforming.

Also, I don't know what the maximum lifespan of a self contained vessel is, but I bet it isn't measured in "thousands" of years.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Also, I don't know what the maximum lifespan of a self contained vessel is, but I bet it isn't measured in "thousands" of years.

If it's traveling between starts without FTL (which is a better bet than anyone traveling with FTL), it had better be, or they're not getting very far.