Sarah Silverman leads class-action lawsuit against ChatGPT creator

[Bohandas]

This dispute is kind of orthogonal to the creator/publisher balance of power.

Silverman wrote a book, The Bedwetter. That book was published by Harper Collins. This is not a dispute between the creator and their publisher. Open AI is a third party that allegedly used the book without any permission from either the creator or publisher.

The balance of power between creator and publisher doesn't lie in the copyright itself, but in the contracts that determine who holds the copyright. The publisher/creator balance is about whether the creators take "Work for hire" contracts, or other arrangements that leave rights in the publisher's hands.

Honestly I can't understand why we still even have publishers. They seem like a useless and parasitic middleman to me

Let's hope that this eventually creates precedent that favours content creators, and not just mega-corp publishers who profit from them.

Let's hope this creates a precedent that favors the end user and not just rent-seekers

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Domesticated animals put someone out of a job!

In fairness, wild animals were very poor at organizing, even though they recognized the threat.

Not to mention the debacle that occurred when they accidentally had the bargaining units for the carnivores and herbivores meet at the same time.

 

[Umbran]

Honestly I can't understand why we still even have publishers. They seem like a useless and parasitic middleman to me

In the book trade, we have publishers because authors are authors, not printing and marketing project managers. Publishers handle a lot of stuff that isn't in the author's skillset.

The same holds true when you get beyond the written word, and into media presentation - making a TV series or movie isn't something the scriptwriter has the wherewithal and skillset to do.

 

[Hussar]

Let's be honest here. It's coming. We all knew this was coming. I remember the 80's when all the factory jobs vanished. Jobs do disappear. It does happen. And, it's going to happen again. I'm pretty sure that AI will take my job. The race is now to see if I can retire before then. Twenty years ago when Google Translate hit the streets, every ESL teacher knew that the clock started on the end of ESL teaching as a career.

And I have no doubt that ten to fifteen years from now, the ESL industry in Asia will collapse. Why bother spending billions of tax dollars to pay foreign workers to teach English in your schools when an app on the phone will do real time conversation translation? And that's absolutely coming. It's a question of when.

Lots of lots of jobs are about to become obsolete. While @Bohandas is stating things perhaps a bit too strongly, they aren't entirely wrong either.

The next ten years are going to be really, really ugly.

 

[Reynard]

Out of curiosity, for those more familiar, what is the difference between how an image generation AI works versus an LLM works? As I understand it, Midjourney copies style but doesn't actually copy images. That's why you can tell it to draw something novel. Does ChatGPT actually copy text?

 

[UngainlyTitan]

This will not be the win indie artists think it will, as the only ones who will benefit from AI training being copyright infringement are the major media corporations, who will then proceed to use AI themselves and prevent anyone else from doing so. Which is quite easy as users have already signed their rights away to companies like #Twitter and #Meta simply by posting there.

This is where the heart of the fight really resides. It has less to do with AI, in my opinion, and more to do with the exploitation of the users and user monitoring by social media and other tech companies that have a large role in mediating connection to the internet in general.
I am firmly of the opinion that the user should be getting more of a return than just access to the platforms.
The situation is not going to change until people become more aware of the level of monitoring and start objecting to it.

 

[Umbran]

The next ten years are going to be really, really ugly.

But, that's not new. Back in 1950s, they noted that the 60s would be ugly. In the 60s, the 70s were going to be ugly, and so on.

There never was a golden time when the future wasn't going to be ugly.

 

[le Redoutable]

Don't lose confidence still, in the future we could drink at " Fontaines de jouvence ", then teleport to any beach, tanning under sunlight, then teleport back to home at down,
What ever

 

[le Redoutable]

We might also consider karmic weddings

 

[ART!]

But, that's not new. Back in 1950s, they noted that the 60s would be ugly. In the 60s, the 70s were going to be ugly, and so on.

There never was a golden time when the future wasn't going to be ugly.

Yeah - it's always the "End-Times" - that's the whole point of end-of-the-world stories. If it weren't, we wouldn't keep telling them.