D&D (2024) Do you plan to adopt D&D5.5One2024Redux?

[Hriston]

I prefer a world that works like the real one with the addition of supernatural and magic. So gravity still works like normal until magic modifies it, people are still people unless they have supernatural oomph.

Without being recognized or knowing someone there's no reason for most background features (e.g. folk hero) to automatically do anything unless they have supernatural backing.

It doesn't take being recognized, knowing someone, or supernatural backing to "find a place to hide, rest, or recuperate among other commoners" who "will shield you from the law or anyone else searching for you". All it takes is that "you fit in among them with ease" which you do because, as the feature says, "you come from the ranks of the common folk".

Why would a sailor just happen to know someone in a port thousands of miles away from home that's not on normal trade routes?

Ship's Passage doesn't say you know someone. It says "you can secure free passage on a sailing ship for yourself and your adventuring companions." A sailor can do this because they "sailed on a seagoing vessel for years." There's nothing supernatural about that.

Why would someone with a criminal background that was just a low level runner suddenly have connections worldwide?

There's nothing sudden about being "an experienced criminal with a history of breaking the law" who has "spent a lot of time among other criminals".

They may know things others don't. They may know how to better relate or find information. They'll get some general knowledge or advantage on checks. Nothing will be automatic. Because the abilities are not supernatural.

Nothing new here, I don't know why you keep asking the same question over and over. There's nothing wrong with always having backgrounds work as written, it's just not how I run my game for the reasons given at least a dozen times now. Unless there's a different question, please stop. It's getting old.

I didn't ask any questions in the post you quoted, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

 

[Maxperson]

Is there anyone left in this thread discussing if they plan to adopt 5e2024 or not?

I tried, but the government said I was unfit to raise it, so alas 5.5e won't be for me.

 

[Maxperson]

I don't view the 2014 Backgrounds as being changes from the 2014 Backgrounds, because I don't view Backgrounds from the past half decade being essentially at all different than the 2014 Backgrounds.

You typo that date a lot, and always to humorous effect!

 

[Maxperson]

we will have to see how many buy the new ones, but even so, didn’t you buy 2e after having bought 1e? I know I did

So did I. Almost entirely for the specialist wizards and proficiencies. The changes weren't drastic, but they were ones I liked and I wasn't going to just remember them all, so I needed the books. At the time there were also few other sources to draw upon.

Since then other good editions have come out. I no longer need to by non-drastic changes when I can just import good stuff from prior editions that I already own. 5.5e needed to knock my socks off and it didn't even roll them down. There are definitely improvements, but not hundreds of dollars worth.

 

[Parmandur]

You typo that date a lot, and always to humorous effect!

Accidents and essence, accidents and essenxe...it's all in Aristotle.

 

[Maxperson]

I would quibble about the old Xore being worthless, but actually I would point to the beautiful mess thst is the DMG: there is some solid gold stuff in there that I don't expect will be in the new DMG, even if the DMG is looking yo very better fit to purpose (particularly all tge tables in Chapter 5: I think the apparent loads of Adventure material will take their place).

I agree with you about the DMG. The 5e DMG is actually a very good book for new DMs, and a good book for experienced ones. It was just an organizational mess that made getting to that gold you mention almost as bad as literal mining.

 

[Parmandur]

5.5e needed to knock my socks off and it didn't even roll them down. There are definitely improvements, but not hundreds of dollars worth.

That's why they are strongly making the point about compatability whej they discuss the books: they care more about people playing D&D than switching. The primary audience for the new Core books isn't longtimers, it is new players.

And even fir longtimers, the cost of upgrading will realistically be more like $30-$100 (depending in hiw many of the new books one uses), which is what the $60 D&D books are going for on Amazon.

 

[Parmandur]

I agree with you about the DMG. The 5e DMG is actually a very good book for new DMs, and a good book for experienced ones. It was just an organizational mess that made getting to that gold you mention almost as bad as literal mining.

The "wouldn't it be cool if 5E had X rule?" answered by "it does, but nobody reads the DMG" is such a common pattern. And it is the DMGs fault!

 

[Maxperson]

That's why they are strongly making the point about compatability whej they discuss the books: they care more about people playing D&D than switching. The primary audience for the new Core books isn't longtimers, it is new players.

And even fir longtimers, the cost of upgrading will realistically be more like $30-$100 (depending in hiw many of the new books one uses), which is what the $60 D&D books are going for on Amazon.

I think that most of those who do upgrade will buy all three core books. At least the DMs. The players will generally do the PHB and maybe the DMG. Some few players(relative to how many play) will buy the MM.

 

[Parmandur]

I think that most of those who do upgrade will buy all three core books. At least the DMs. The players will generally do the PHB and maybe the DMG. Some few players(relative to how many play) will buy the MM.

Not necessarily: first of all, in my experience players barely buy the PHB.

But I can see partial adaptation of any one of these new Core books:

• the Monster Manual is going to have enough totally new stat blocks to be in the same territory as Volo's Guide or Tome of Foes, for instance, so I could see some DMs who don't plan to upgrade their game still deciding they want the additional Monsters and new art.
• The new DMG by itself could be very attractive, for multiple reasons, such as the mini-Adventure anthology, the Setting, and clearer rules organization
• The new PHB, if the new presentation of Classes and rules ends up being attractive but the individual table doesn't see the need for new backend DM material.

At any rate, for budget conscious folks any one of these will be procurabble for ~$30, which around these parts is an Extra Large Pepperoni pizza or an hour and a half of minimum wage work.