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D&D 5E How can I get Wrathful Smite on my spell list?


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DND_Reborn

The High Aldwin
Are these the only ways to get this spell?
Nope.

Magic Initiate is probably the best way, using a variant human or Tasha's rules to get the feat at 1st level.
This is the best way (easiest) IMO.

With Tasha's adding the clause to such feats:
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I would imagine most DMs would agree that gaining Wrathful Smite via Magic Initiate would allow you cast it using available spell slots as well as once via the feat.
 


DND_Reborn

The High Aldwin
Magic Initiate doesn't allow you to pick spells from the paladin list (and paladins have no cantrips for Magic Initiate to apply to either.)
LOL, yeah I forgot that is RAW. My house-rules removed that a LONG, LONG time ago! :)

So, any DM can also remove it (giving Paladins access to Cleric cantrips--which they should have had all along...). ;)
 

Stormonu

Legend
LOL, yeah I forgot that is RAW. My house-rules removed that a LONG, LONG time ago! :)

So, any DM can also remove it (giving Paladins access to Cleric cantrips--which they should have had all along...). ;)
Apparently, I've done the same exact thing. Including giving access to cantrips for Paladins (and Rangers).
 


ECMO3

Hero
Another option is to look for the psuedo equivalents.

The Form of Dread of the Undead Warlock allows you to impact the undead condition once per round on a hit (save negates). I have a druid that has made an undead pact to allow Armor of Agathys, Hex and Form of Dread to create 'Pet Cemetary'-esque Circle of the Moon animal shapes.

Battlemaster Menacing Attack also gives the frightened condition.

As a DM, if a player tells me that they like the mechanic that a particular spell, item or monster has because it seems like a fun feature for a PC, but they see no way to get it, I look for ways to make it happen at an appropriate cost. For example, you might find a 'Vexing Weapon' in my game that forces enemies hit by the first attack made during your turn to make a DC 13 Wisdom saving throw or be frightened of you until the start of your next turn.

I love Undead Warlocks. It is my favorite Warlock, even for a Gish. It is not the same though and if I could multiclass to Warlock I would just go Hexblade anyway.

Form of Dread is nice but the frightened effect only lasts a round. The great thing about Wrathful Smite is it takes an action to try to shake it and you use that action to make a wisdom check, not a save so that check is done at disadvantage and gets no proficiency bonus.

I also love menacing attack, and I have picked that up with a feat before, but again it is not as powerful as Wrathful Smite.
 

ECMO3

Hero
Nope.


This is the best way (easiest) IMO.

With Tasha's adding the clause to such feats:
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I would imagine most DMs would agree that gaining Wrathful Smite via Magic Initiate would allow you cast it using available spell slots as well as once via the feat.

You can not get Paladin, Ranger or Artificer only spells using magic intitiate:

Choose a class: bard, cleric, druid, sorcerer, warlock, or wizard. You learn two cantrips of your choice from that class's spell list.

In addition, choose one 1st-level spell to learn from that same list. Using this feat, you can cast the spell once at its lowest level, and you must finish a long rest before you can cast it in this way again.


Wrathful Smite is only on the Paladin list. If I could do that I would be all over it.
 


jgsugden

Legend
I love Undead Warlocks. It is my favorite Warlock, even for a Gish. It is not the same though and if I could multiclass to Warlock I would just go Hexblade anyway.

Form of Dread is nice but the frightened effect only lasts a round. The great thing about Wrathful Smite is it takes an action to try to shake it and you use that action to make a wisdom check, not a save so that check is done at disadvantage and gets no proficiency bonus.

I also love menacing attack, and I have picked that up with a feat before, but again it is not as powerful as Wrathful Smite.
It seems like you're focused on the mechanic of it and the belief that it is a desirable overpowered mechanic. If so - multiclass hexblade is likely worth the cost. You get Hexblade's Curse, Wrathful Smite, Armor of Agathys, a couple Cantrips, ability to use Charisma to attack (if it is a high stat for you), and a SR 1st level slot. For a build that works to use Wrathful Smite, it is a pretty good deal.
 

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