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I haven't had much problem with Rituals in my groups. I have noticed that the LFR players in my group didn't even bother with them. So now the group is walking around with 500gp of ritual materials and a couple ritual books and they have no clue what to do with them. So one of the players is...

The one thing people seem to be forgetting is that you don't have to bother multi-classing into the base class at al if you want you can go straight to the other classes Paragon Class. As long as you took the prerequisites needed you can switch from say a Ranger with Rogue multi-class feat into...

This really comes down to the player and the DM. Experienced DM's/Player's can steer away from that. However when you first pick up 3E as a new gamer it can lead you into that full attack mentality. I think that its hard to judge a system as an experienced gamer. We really have to step back...

Agreeable with the fact that no matter what system you use you are only as free as you need to be. I ran convention games with only 1 page of notes and winged the rest. I agree with all most all of what you say in regards to 3.x. Seeing as we both have a very similar approch to the rpg. I just...

Disclaimer I am not trying to be harsh here The bulk of your posts is a rebuttal about the OP's feelings to 3.X RAW, but all your points are based on your own homebrew way of getting around the problems with 3.X RAW. I am really confused with your post and I have to say in response your last...

It all ways fun to partake in. Also, don't be so quick to dismiss a shields offencive capabilities. In War EVERYTHING is a weapon.

Well 2 Weapon fighting when dealing with long weapons is in reality impractical in combat. The problem with modern society is we have no combat experience and rely solely on heresay and practice. Anyone who has been in a real fight will say that what you do in the ring is VERY different then...

Not to be rude, but this has been rehashed over and over. This is completely MISSING the point of the skill challenge. You *CAN* intimidate the Duke. However, he doesn't like dealing with people who intimidate him, and he will not speak on your behalf or have much to do with you if he can avoid...

*chuckles* Thanks I look at in two ways. I am not worried about convincing grognards, long beards, or 3.X slider rule fanatics that I am right. I figure some of these examples I might not have thought off, and heck even one person sees a good idea then bam I win. :)

Were does it say that Derren? Diplomacy is a skill you use to get something done. During your diplomatic overtures you discover something. This is why I called it an easter egg. You are taking the rules in a VERY narrow context and not using them for what they are supposed to be used for. This...

I think alot of people are missing the boat on this one. No one says its impossible to bring up the past exploits of the Duke through history. What it is saying is that he hears it alot and it has no real bearing on the outcome of this specific challenge. You need something else that makes this...

I am really curious as to how you get that from the skill challenge system. Its like saying there is no role-playing in creating my character. I roll my stats and use them to overcome obstacles. I don't need a personality because there is no were in the rules that implies I have one. I just have...

All ready dealt with this in my post. You can be a font of information knowing everything there is to know. However the real truth lies in a simple yet obscure thing we in this culture are too stupid to grasp. Knowing the answer is only half the equation. What is the question young padawan. 42...

Don't forget it can be insignicant in the eyes of history but that the Duke feels is a bright spot or a thorn in his side. While you might know the fact with out knowing the Duke you would not realize its relevance to him. For instance it may be that the day the King rode out to be assasinated...

Again lets have a reality check. Having one skill result in something else because it suits role-play and plot is in no way putting the plot on rails. That is a rather silly statement considering it removes 1 of a nearly infinite number of options to the PC's. To properly put the plot ON rails...

Ok people this is amusing and all but lets have reality set in. Breath stop and think. One name I will spout and if it doesn't solve this inane arguement about why intimidate should not work on some individuals then you are obviously an individual who logic should resort to automatic failure...

It would only be very powerful against solo or maybe elite encounters. The majority of encounters will involve a minimum of 4 monsters, and most likley much more then that. So being able to use the ability on one monster once per encounter is substancial but not broken IMO.

I personally LOVE this new way of doing things. I think it allows you to have flavour and abilities form another class. MOSTLY though it makes Paragon Paths very interesting. Sure there will be paragon paths for individual classes, but what about Paragon Paths for multiclass characters? Arcane...

Celebrim needs to get over his I am right retoric that no one is caring about. Come on Celebrim at this point your about as useful as a troll. Everyone has all ready admited you are right, but that it means absolutely nothing. If you don't like it then don't use it. I for one am interested in...

Correct me if I Am wrong but isn't 4E pretty much removing the whole idea of the skill monkey? Also, while this work through metagaming, its not that easy to pull off through RP unless the skills come up repeatedly in competitions. Your party will eventually get into a state of "oh I think we...