D&D 5E 5E PHB on Amazon $30 Pre-Order

All very good if you have a store that sells this within 3 hours drive (my nearest store, but only sells Magic stuff). Or even the same country. Not sure there is anywhere in NZ that will sell 5E at all apart from webstores.

You would buy it at amazon for 40$ too. So the 30$ price really only has one reason: destroy their competitors. At the cost of shops in small cities dying and at the cost of packet deliverers being underpaid. Whenever you buy at amazon, you should question yourself if it is what you want. I don´t want to attack anyone who choses the amazon way because he does not have the money or does not have a shop within a few miles. Driving 3 hours for a book is not reasonable at all, if you can have it delivered by amazon.

But you know, there are people who go into the shop, checking the product (reading in it in this case) and maybe even receive information and service from the employees there, and then leave it without buying anything and then order the book at amazon... not because they don´t have money to spend but don´t want to save a little bit of money not thinking about the consequences of their actions.
 

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variant

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You would buy it at amazon for 40$ too. So the 30$ price really only has one reason: destroy their competitors. At the cost of shops in small cities dying and at the cost of packet deliverers being underpaid. Whenever you buy at amazon, you should question yourself if it is what you want. I don´t want to attack anyone who choses the amazon way because he does not have the money or does not have a shop within a few miles. Driving 3 hours for a book is not reasonable at all, if you can have it delivered by amazon.

But you know, there are people who go into the shop, checking the product (reading in it in this case) and maybe even receive information and service from the employees there, and then leave it without buying anything and then order the book at amazon... not because they don´t have money to spend but don´t want to save a little bit of money not thinking about the consequences of their actions.

Get off your high horse.
 

darjr

I crit!
actually rpg revenue at shops is probably so freaking small it doesn't mean the difference of that random store surviving or not, it means whether or not that store supports RPGs at all.
 

Patrick McGill

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actually rpg revenue at shops is probably so freaking small it doesn't mean the difference of that random store surviving or not, it means whether or not that store supports RPGs at all.

Indeed. The lifesblood of most game shops (that are not also comic shops) is pretty much Magic: The Gathering with a side helping of the recent Board Game push.

What this means, however, is that those shops that do the Magic events will very easily be able to the DnD events as well.
 


Holy Bovine

First Post
actually rpg revenue at shops is probably so freaking small it doesn't mean the difference of that random store surviving or not, it means whether or not that store supports RPGs at all.

Ain't that the truth. None of the FLGS in my area make much money off of RPGs anymore. Aside from the heydays of early 3E (and of course back in the much heyer heydays of the 80s) RPGs have been a tiny niche product at the best of times. Magic and board games is were the real money is and even comics are a shadow of their former selves. This just comes from the owner of a long time comics & game shop in town. He estimated nearly 80% of his revenue comes from Magic and board games the rest from comics, toys and RPGs. This from a place that used to see 60+% of its revenue from comics alone.
 


fjw70

Adventurer
When I heard the LGS would be getting the books earlier I was considering canceling my $40 Amazon pre-order and getting it at the early release. Then the price on Amazon dropped to $30 and I wasn't so sure.


Now I am thinking of getting the book from the LGS and getting the cheaper one from Amazon to give to my son for his 13th birthday in September.
 

I am sorry, but I do mean it honestly. I wanted to explain my position, but then I realized, it still sounds as if I am a high horse. I really don´t want to forbid anyone to get something for a cheap price and I don´t condemn anyone who does. I just want to appeal to anyone to think about how much he likes his local gaming store and how much time he spends there, browsing in books, looking for games etc, and how it correlates with the money spent there. Don´t take those shops for granted. They need a revenue stream and should be paid for their service.
 

delericho

Legend
Indeed. The lifesblood of most game shops (that are not also comic shops) is pretty much Magic: The Gathering with a side helping of the recent Board Game push.

It's perhaps worth noting that Magic is currently in the middle of a boom (and it's probably no coincidence that that boom hits 20 years after the original boom). In time, that boom will end.

I'm not sure that has a direct bearing on the FLGS vs Amazon decision as regards D&D 5e, but I fear we may lose yet another batch of FLGS in a few years time. Though I'm not sure there's anything we could do to stop that.
 

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