Bursts and Blasts - Elaborate

[Rechan]

As far as we know, there are no ranged blasts. All blasts start adjacent to the caster or source. Because there are both ranged and close BURSTS, it is important to distinguish them.

If there are no ranged blasts, then it's redundant to mention that they're all close.

 

[Oldtimer]

No, that makes me confused.

Because then a Close Blast is the same thing as a regular blast, since the regular blast has to be adjacent to the caster's square.

I'm looking at all the diagrams, and based on what you said, every time a Blast is shown, it's a Close blast.

Those are the only kind of blasts we know of yet.

What do you mean with "regular blast"? Got an example?

 

[Rechan]

Those are the only kind of blasts we know of yet.

What do you mean with "regular blast"? Got an example?

If all blasts are close, then all close blasts are regular, therefore all you have to do is say "Blast" to mean what you are saying.

 

[MaelStorm]

As an example, here is a 7x7 area

_______
__XXX__
_XXXXX_
_XXCXX_
_XXXXX_
__XXX__
_______

C=Caster
X=2 Adjacent squares around the caster that are affected by the Close Blast 2
_=Squares around the caster that are unaffected by the Close Blast 2

 

[Oldtimer]

If there are no ranged blasts, then it's redundant to mention that they're all close.

No. "Close" is the type of attack. It signifies that it doesn't provoke an OA. "Blast" is the shape of the attack. They are descriptors for two different things.

You could, in theory, have an attack which is "Area blast 2 within 10", which would be a kind of wave originating from a square with in 10 squares of the caster.

Like:

C


T
.XX
.XX

We haven't seen any of those yet, though

 

[Oldtimer]

As an example, here is a 7x7 area

_______
__XXX__
_XXXXX_
_XXCXX_
_XXXXX_
__XXX__
_______

C=Caster
X=2 Adjacent squares around the caster that are affected by the Close Blast 2
_=Squares around the caster that are unaffected by the Close Blast 2

No, this is completely wrong. That is a Close burst 2 - except that you forgot to include the corners.

 

[Rechan]

As an example, here is a 7x7 area

_______
__XXX__
_XXXXX_
_XXCXX_
_XXXXX_
__XXX__
_______

C=Caster
X=2 Adjacent squares around the caster that are affected by the Close Blast 2
_=Squares around the caster that are unaffected by the Close Blast 2

That's a burst.

 

[MaelStorm]

No, this is completely wrong. That is a Close burst 2 - except that you forgot to include the corners.

Oops, yes. I hate square burst. But you're right, now they include corners.

So, if I correct my 7X7 example

_XXXXX_
_XXXXX_
_XX.XX_
_XXXXX_
_XXXXX_
___C___
_______

.=chosen target square for the blast
X=adjacent square
C=caster
_=unaffected squares

Is this right?

 

[Oldtimer]

Oops, yes. I hate square burst. But your right, now they include corners.

So, if I correct my 7X7 example

_XXXXX_
_XXXXX_
_XX.XX_
_XXXXX_
_XXXXX_
___C___
_______

.=chosen target square for the blast
X=adjacent square
C=caster
_=unaffected squares

Is this right?

Yes, and no.

The way you've put it (with a target square in the middle), it's more of an Area burst 2.

However, if you made it:

_XXXXX_
_XXXXX_
_XXXXX_
_XXXXX_
_XXXXX_
___C___
_______

I would agree with it being a Close blast 5.

 

[MaelStorm]

Yes, and no.

The way you've put it (with a target square in the middle), it's more of an Area burst 2.

However, if you made it:

_XXXXX_
_XXXXX_
_XXXXX_
_XXXXX_
_XXXXX_
___C___
_______

I would agree with it being a Close blast 5.

Thanks. So, if I understand correctly with my 7X7 square example:

Close Blast 2     Close Burst 2
_______           _______
_______           _XXXXX_
___XX__           _XXXXX_
___XX__           _XXCXX_
___C___           _XXXXX_
_______           _XXXXX_
_______           _______