Thomas Bowman
First Post
A significant number of Americans love to lampoon the Nazis, to turn them into tragic comedy figures, or to use them as safe villains.
A very small proportion idealize them — about the same proportions as in Germany, so I have read — but here, they make the news. Regularly. And are very vocal in their political movements.
Reich Star, for example, is a decent game, and a "What if the Nazis had won WWII and then discovered a hyperdrive in the 21st C." It paints them as "still evil"... and predicates fighting them in the flavor text. My players, including a Jew and a Romany, plus me being ethnically and religiously Ukrainian, chose to play resistance hiding inside the SS Totenkopfverbande. Yes, the most evil, vile, despicable portion... for the cathartic pleasure of being able to take down the 3rd reich from the top. (It also is the game that made me decide some things are, in fact, best left to a fade to black and make a roll.)
Unlike gender issues, few people I've met mind lampooning the Nazis. Make them out to be untermenschen, and all's right.
But that, too, is changing in tolerance levels in places I'm gaming.
I think chances are fairly good that Hitler's evil would not be carried too many generations past his natural lifetime, you might at some point get a Fuhrer that is not interested in starting a war or killing people, but merely in preserving his power, or perhaps maintaining the Reich as it is. Just as it is, if you start out with a good King, you won't always have a good king inheriting the throne, so too would it work with Fuhrers, Hitler was undoubtable evil, but for whomever follows him or the one that comes after the next one, that might not necessarily be the case. If the Nazi regime conquered the World, there would be no one after that left to conquer, so no more wars. There are also only so many Jews to kill, and its likely that a couple generations after Hitler's natural lifespan, a future Fuhrer might not be so fanatical in killing them, some might just be interested in further developing the Empire.
There was nothing about the way the Third Reich was structured which would require his Hitler's successors to carry out Hitler's Final Solution ad infinitum. I think it is safe to say that by the 21st century, Hitler himself would likely be dead, Himmler would likely be dead as well as any historical character that we would be familiar with. I think a future Reich, would not be all that different from a Future Roman Empire that also managed to survive lone enough to travel in space. Old empires tend to get conservative, it would not be governed by a risk take like Hitler was, it would instead be someone who is interested in preserving the Empire rather than taking huge risks to greatly expand it. And expanding an empire in space would likely involve settling uninhabited rocks in the Solar System, requiring settlers not soldiers waging wars of conquest.
A Reich in an alternate Traveler Universe would involve the Reich contending with the First Imperium, the result might be similar to the Rule of Man. By the time a time traveler got to the equivalent of 1100 Imperial, the main thing that would be noticed would be everyone speaking German instead of English. An inhabitant of that timeline, might not look kindly on someone trying to change the timeline back to what it was, they might acknowledge the evil that went on in their Empire's founding, but would insist that it has nothing to do with their current generation.
3000 years later, there would not be much left of the original Third Reich, there might be an empire, but that empire would likely have little in common with the Third Reich at the time it was founded. Not to whitewash history, The Holocaust and World War II were terrible, and I certainly would not want them to win, but three thousand years later, the policies that survived would be those policies which would maintain the empire and its power structures, this won't necessarily be exceptionally evil or good. Even the Star Wars' Galactic Empire, which was based in some aspects on the Third Reich model, didn't last this long!
The Third Reich was unstable, it had no unifying culture, it probably would not have lasted even a century, even if Hitler was successful in everything he set out to do.