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Does using a whip to trip provoke an attack of opportunity?

dreaded_beast

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The whip provokes an attack of opportunity when used.

However, under the description of the trip manuever, using a weapon to trip does not provoke an attack of opportunity.

Does that mean if a whip is used as a regular melee attack, it provokes an attack of opportunity, but if it is used for a trip, it doesn't?
 

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Hypersmurf

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dreaded_beast said:
The whip provokes an attack of opportunity when used.

However, under the description of the trip manuever, using a weapon to trip does not provoke an attack of opportunity.

Does that mean if a whip is used as a regular melee attack, it provokes an attack of opportunity, but if it is used for a trip, it doesn't?

The trip itself doesn't, but using the whip does.

It's the same as how a Charge does not provoke an AoO, but leaving a threatened square while charging does.

So you provoke the AoO whatever you use the whip for.

-Hyp.
 
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Lord Pendragon

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Like Hyp said. But keep in mind that your foe can't take an AoO unless he can reach you with his melee attack. And since the whip has a 15' reach, you can usually manage to not be in range of anyone.
 

Lawmage

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Indeed, LP, you hit what I was just looking up...The whip only provokes an AoO if used in melee, like a ranged weapon. This presupposes that the opponent trying to take the AoO is in melee with you. Given the whip has a range of 15' it becomes somewhat more difficult for that oppoent to achieve his AoO. I have had NPC's and monsters use the whip to good effect and have not had the AoO be a problem. Eventually the PC's tired of getting popped with the whip and closed to do battle with the wielder, who dropped it and used a real weapon. An ogre with a large whip has quite a reach and can make live pure hell for an unarmored spell caster lurking in the "safety" zone behind the ironclad muscle.
 

Lord Pendragon

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Lawmage said:
An ogre with a large whip has quite a reach and can make live pure hell for an unarmored spell caster lurking in the "safety" zone behind the ironclad muscle.
Next time, use a whip-dagger from Sword and Fist. :]
 

FireLance

Legend
Lawmage said:
An ogre with a large whip has quite a reach and can make live pure hell for an unarmored spell caster lurking in the "safety" zone behind the ironclad muscle.
I'm not sure if it's all that bad:

(a) The whip only does nonlethal damage.
(b) The spellcaster may still benefit from soft cover.
(c) You don't threaten the area into which you can make a whip attack, so the spellcaster will not provoke an AOO from the ogre when he casts spells.
 

Darklone

Registered User
FireLance said:
I'm not sure if it's all that bad:

(a) The whip only does nonlethal damage.
(b) The spellcaster may still benefit from soft cover.
(c) You don't threaten the area into which you can make a whip attack, so the spellcaster will not provoke an AOO from the ogre when he casts spells.
Well, you can ready to disarm the spellcaster of his spell components ;)
 

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