TarionzCousin
Second Most Angelic Devil Ever
Technically, the Mountain DID confess....
D&D 5E 'Game of Thrones' fans: what kind of weapon does Oberyn use?
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Nergal Pendragon
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Very good point!
I honestly have no idea why the spear in DnD isn't finesse-based, given that several of the oldest martial arts using it are the epitome of finesse...
iserith
Magic Wordsmith
DM applied "progress combined with a setback" (Basic Rules, page 58) for that failed check.
"Okay, The Mountain confesses, but..."
variant
Adventurer
You are confusing skill and finesse.
Nergal Pendragon
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Or I understand the difference between martial arts like those that contributed to Wushu and martial arts like those used in European regimental fighting...
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TarionzCousin
Second Most Angelic Devil Ever
Oberyn's real problem was that he was really a Charisma-based character and the Mountain was immune to his charms.
Jefe Bergenstein
Legend
It can be both. The rapier is a weapon designed for quick thrusts, but you can still Hulk Smash and use your strength if you want. The way Oberyn fights with that weapon in the show's scene is very different from the Spatans in 300 (particularly due to being a 2 handed reach). Both use skill, but the Spartan's use power (Str to hit).
I think balanced weapon stats would be martial, 1d10 piercing, reach, finesse. Essentially a glaive with finesse subbed in for heavy. So no great weapon fighting, but polearm mastery would work. Should give the feel you're looking for.
The strength version could be a modified lance. Less damage (d10 vs d12). No disadvantage against close targets, but can't be used one handed while mounted.
If I were to be a bit devil's advocate (and strictly armchair here, I have the strength of an anemic third grader) if you have 2 feet of steel on the end of a six foot stick, any amount of whirling, especially as your hands get closer to the blunt end will require a lot of strength.
As for Oberyn, he obviously dumped wisdom and maybe constitution for a strong Str, Dex and Cha. You can be both strong and quick. In the real world it is often required to be strong to be particular quick or flexible.
As for Oberyn, he obviously dumped wisdom and maybe constitution for a strong Str, Dex and Cha. You can be both strong and quick. In the real world it is often required to be strong to be particular quick or flexible.
I made an oberyn based character in one of my campaigns and had to deal with this same issue. I thought glaive but finesse based but my dm said it would be to much damage for a finesse weapon. He decided i had to stick with the 1d8 of a rapier(the highest finesse dmg) but i could consider it a spear or glaive without reach or throwing. I didnt like his decision.
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