Guess the LA!

[dcollins]

I was going to say that specifying the natural attacks is pretty important. So we see it has 12, can you specify the damage?

 

[wraith8]

1d6 damage for each of the 9 claw attacks, 2d6 for each of the 3 bite attacks.

Note, of the 9 claw attacks, 3 are ruled as primary weapons, the other 3 and the 3 bites are secondary weapons.

Coincidentally, the description allows for the creature to wield instead of the 9 claws 6 medium size weapons instead....

The creture automatically has the feats alertness, multiattack, and multiweapon fighting.....

 

[jgbrowning]

I'd give it a LA of LA:--

Sorry, can't play it.

joe b.

 

[dcollins]

Natural armor? Other AC bonuses?

 

[wraith8]

Negligable, 5 natural armor.....

Also, it has immunity to mind affecting and polymorphing effects.

 

[dcollins]

You're calling 5 natural armor negligible? That's like worth +1 LA all on its own (consider lizardfolk).

Anyway, from what you're saying the sharn's raw melee stats must look something like this -- Sharn: CR ?; AC 19; hp 38; Spd 10, fly 40; Face/Reach 10/10; Atk 3 claws +6 (1d6+4), 6 claws +4 (1d6+2), 3 bites +4 (2d6+2); SA quickness; SQ DR 10/cold iron, regenerate 2, etc.

The natural armor plus DR plus regeneration stacks up for a considerable defense. Running this through my melee simulator program, even as just a brute melee fighter the Sharn can hold its own against up to a 10th-level NPC fighter (assuming no cold iron or Lawful weapon). That indicates a baseline of +6 LA right there, without considering flight or any other abilities.

I'd ballpark another +3 on top of that for (1) flight, (2) the good mental stats, and (3) miscellaneous immunities, evasion, and "hex portals".

So my guess is LA +9. The base creature would have a total ECL of 13.

EDIT: However, by virtue of some online clues, I might guess that there are still other significant powers that haven't been addressed yet.

 

[Elric]

I doubt that this will be easy to balance. When you have one class level, your HP might be so low that you will just be really fragile. When you have 6 class levels though, you might be incredible thanks to all of the abilities.

 

[Falconnan]

Still need to know the creature type and spell like abilities. Creature type affects BAB, and skill points/HD.
All told, I'm thinking LA of +7, not counting the spell-like abilities. Please supply above info, unless I missed it.

 

[Knight Otu]

I guess +6 as well, because of the 4 racial HD (which don't grant any special abilities)

Please don't forget that ECL is calculated as LA + Racial HD + Class Levels. Racial HD (officially) only affect the LA indirectly.

I cheated, and took a peek. Too low. Far too low.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

Please don't forget that ECL is calculated as LA + Racial HD + Class Levels. Racial HD (officially) only affect the LA indirectly.

I know.

With the additional info, my guess goes up quite a bit.