Infinitely Opening Locks and Bashing Doors

[hong]

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Enlisting the aid of fellow characters helps though

Is there something wrong with the concept of teamwork?

 

[Weeble]

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Is there something wrong with the concept of teamwork?

uhhh, no?

 

[kreynolds]

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uhhh, no?

Then why punish with higher DCs just because you know the party might actually work together?

 

[Moonglum]

The rules are written that you can retry and retry, because they assume that after about 10 misses they will either give up or take 20. If they take 20 and wait around the time to attempt this, and the attempt still fails, end of encounter....

The reason you can try over and over again is because in real life if you were trying to break down a door you could try as many times as you would like... It's not like a hide check where you have some sort of penalty if you miss your check, and it shouldn't be used that way.

 

[Uller]

When I saw the subject, I envisioned a big burly fighter running around a dungeon populated with nothing but thousands of doors and smashing 'em all to bits. It brought to mind that Bugs Bunny cartoon where Yosimite Sam is dressed as an Arab and is trying to break into Bugs's fort by tearing down a series of doors, the last of which is wired with TNT...

"I wonder of he's stubborn enough to open all those door."...

...BOOM!...

"Yep! He's stubborn enough!"

Anyway...Has this been a problem for you? Or is it just hypotheticall? I've never seen run into a problem with the lock picking and door smashing rules in an actual game.

 

[Uller]

If there are any

If there aren't any enemies about, then who cares? Either tell them they can or can't open the door by bashing it and let them come up with some other way to get through the door or encourage them to move on to something interesting.

 

[Shin Okada]

If there is no enemy around, no traps, and no time limit, you can break a door eventually, if it could be broken with your strength. What is wrong?

If you want PCs to found some other way to open that door, just make the door very tough, say, DC 40.

 

[Weeble]

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Then why punish with higher DCs just because you know the party might actually work together?

I didn't say I would.

 

[Weeble]

When I saw the subject, I envisioned a big burly fighter running around a dungeon populated with nothing but thousands of doors and smashing 'em all to bits. It brought to mind that Bugs Bunny cartoon where Yosimite Sam is dressed as an Arab and is trying to break into Bugs's fort by tearing down a series of doors, the last of which is wired with TNT...

"I wonder of he's stubborn enough to open all those door."...

...BOOM!...

"Yep! He's stubborn enough!"

Anyway...Has this been a problem for you? Or is it just hypotheticall? I've never seen run into a problem with the lock picking and door smashing rules in an actual game.

Hypothetical. Actually I'm not sure why I didn't figure this one out on my own. For some reason I forgot that you could just take 20 on Door checks and OL.

 

[Weeble]

If there aren't any enemies about, then who cares? Either tell them they can or can't open the door by bashing it and let them come up with some other way to get through the door or encourage them to move on to something interesting.

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