(IR) The 1st IR, The 2nd IR (complete transcripts)

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(Post 35) The Second IR

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Bagguns
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posted December 07, 2001 09:07 AM

Actually Moriartty, we already Chaos Wave'd the demiplane of New Umbra, just waiting for some effect
explanations by Edena...you're more than welcome to add your power to the wave however.

[ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: Bagguns ]

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DocMoriartty
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posted December 07, 2001 09:15 AM

I have not been on since yesterday in the afternoon so I missed a lot. It seems my lack of attention
after closing the crystal sphere has caused some problems and given some help.

Originally posted by Bagguns:

Actually Moriartty, we already Chaos Wave'd the demiplane of New Umbra, just waiting for some effect
explanations by Edena...you're more than welcome to add your power to the wave however.

[ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: Bagguns ]

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 07, 2001 09:50 AM

Rulings:

My apologies to Riot Gear. I erred, mistaking your intent.
Unfortunately, the mistake cannot be taken back or rectified ... it must be played out now.

Ao cannot stop the war. I have kept the Gods out of this, and Ao must also remain neutral.
Ao is free to give advice and warnings, but not to act.

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The illithid of New Umbra were able to successfully transfer their demi-plane to Toril before the Slaadi
could set off a Chaos Wave in it.

Now, the Slaadi could set off a Chaos Wave against it now, but said Chaos Wave would affect all of
Realmspace.

The choice is yours.

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There are too many people attempting Planar Travel for any restraints to hold up.
All attempts to block Planar Travel fail; excepting only that the Sigilians can block the portals from
Realmspace to Sigil and vice versa.

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I would like to point out that the Technocracy has not yet agreed to pay the Yuan-Ti for their help; I
must assume the Yuan-Ti are NOT helping yet because they have not been paid.
The Gnomes, indeed, have apparently advised the Technocracy not to pay the Yuan-Ti.

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DocMoriartty
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posted December 07, 2001 09:59 AM

Ok, then I jump into the fray as described above. Including Moriartty himself sitting back and waiting
to act if the Chaos wave is unleashed.

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Aloïsius
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posted December 07, 2001 10:00 AM

OoC, To Joren:
Illithids do not belongs to Toril, they come frome another material plane, and were not the creation of
Ao. In fact, Ao has only created the place where lies Toril. All the further creation were the work of
Selûne and Shar, and then the other gods and godesses.
As for the problem of fiends reacting to the angels intervention, it is very unlikely, because of the
blood wars between the Devils and the Demons. Be sure they will watch with delight the destruction, as
each time hate push beings against each other, it strengthens them, but I doubt they will interfere.
And by the way, why did Ao interfere now, and not before ? That's not consistent.
As for asking the Illithids to act in a way that would prevent Armaggedon... They are trying to destroy
Toril and bring Armaggedon on it, as this place threatens their way of life (at least, with the NeoIllithids
and the converted LG deep illithids, that's how they see it).
However, if the problem is the angels intervention, they should know it, and be able to act accordingly,
coming back to their home plane.

I will soon quit my computer for week end, and won't be here before Sunday evening. I will let Gez
lead my camps.

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DocMoriartty
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posted December 07, 2001 10:02 AM

Ok, then I jump into the fray as described above. The Sharn and Sigilians who were attempting to
keep Toril closed will join their fellows so all 13 strike groups are working together on this.

Including Moriartty himself sitting back and waiting to act if the Chaos wave is unleashed.

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 07, 2001 10:03 AM

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Bagguns
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posted December 07, 2001 10:05 AM

No, no Chaos Wave then...just killing Illithids and then going back to Limbo after the mop up is
completed, also the following that I posted back on the opther thread before I realized you created
this one.

POST FROM OTHER THREAD FOR EDENA:

You tell some one to watch their mouth because they don't speak for everyone and they chomp at the
bit to annihilate your entire race, what is Toril coming to?

You make plain to everyone that after the Illithids are taken care of you're leaving and they decide to
take the battle to your home plane, mages are so touchy!

Anyways, I guess it's time for Operation: Fortress Limbo.

The Slaadi who have stayed behind to "garrison" Limbo begin to use Chaos shaping in order to fortify
the plane from counterattack by the Umbral Illithid.

1) We change the "natural laws" of the plane to make it harder (trying for impossible) to use psionic
powers in Limbo

2) All Slaadi "cities" are protected by four-fold elemental spheres, passable to those with Chaos
shaping better than the Slaadi (good luck) or those the Slaadi decide to let through.

3) Likely entry points are bathed in roiling seas of Chaos...have a nice swim! (Not inside the cities
though)

4) Use of Ethereal plane to enter the plane will automatically be detected and pinpointed by
inahbitants of Limbo.

5) Wards and innate spell powers are used to set up traps just outside of the Chaos Seas and secure
areas inside the cities, Slaadi may pass these wards but no other.

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zouron
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posted December 07, 2001 10:21 AM

well edena you know my troops plan, piece through the defence with all we got sorta one point
blitzkrieger, straight into center, detonate whatever we have left at the time of the finding the general
location of the elder brain, and blast everything off giving usself minimum time to get away through
magic/psionic/whatever. and no concern is shown to other forces... this needs to be won at all cost...
and my character personally see that it does happened.

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only far away voices breaks the silence
whom wish to escape
this labyrinth of loneliness
we fumble our way, but finds nothing
because here are no walls
only the fear's angst
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Phasmus
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posted December 07, 2001 10:26 AM

I have missed much in sleep...
The Deep Illithid and their former thralls have been fighting against the Umbran Illithid from the very
start... and doing little else, as indicated earlier.

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Alzem Dalcama
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posted December 07, 2001 10:27 AM

Edena, do not forget that all of my Maurt's are still on the Island there to protect it. Also those people
on the Island are not called to fight in this war, they went to the Island for peace and we will not ask
them to leave it to enter a war. Let them live out their lives in peace. Also we will start bringing in our
Crystal Golumns to fight the Illithid. Also any Brain Moles that we can locate we will send to thier
demi-plane to assualt them.

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Gez
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posted December 07, 2001 11:14 AM

Let see. The forces massed against the Umbran Illithids are:
*The illusory Slaadi, Chaos Beasts, Titans, Eladrins and Djinni (even if they're illusory, the deal real
damages to the mindflayed mindflayers);
*The Gnomes, with their strike team of technodruids, technorangers, paladins, illusionist wizards,
clerics and golems;
*The Magocracy of Zouron, with (former ?) undead and wizards;
*The real Slaadi;
*The real Eladrins;
*The Archons led by Alzem;
*The NeoIllithids;
*The converted Deep Illithids;
*The Sharn;
*The Sigillians;
*"The" Larloch and his buddies;
*and others that I forget.

The Illithids that havn't retreated to defend the Elder Brain are assaulted by the forces of the
Technomancy, the Reborn Elves, and in fact most everyone who happen to be near a mindflayer.

Seeing that, the Yuan-ti perform a quick computation. Then, they try to estimate the amount of relics,
artifacts, magic items, and lore arcane, divine or psionic in the vault of New Umbra. They decide to
engage the Illithids here, even if the Prime Minister didn't sign the paper. They want to be the first to
loot New Umbra.

Meanwhile, another power, that was unnoticed until now, react. These strange creatures have always
been the concurrent of the illithids. Their exact goals are unknow, as their mind have always been to
alien to be understood by the other races, and noone never successfully communicated with them, but
one can estimate their current objective is similar to the Yuan-ti's one. So, the Cloacker enter in the
dance, passing through the Plane of Shadow to attack the (few remaining) umbran illithids.


The gnomes, since they now have Larloch's help, can coordinate their action with Zouron. They have
their own nuclear warhead, and are protected by nondetection, mindblank, invisibility and obscure
object spells, but Larloch, thanks to the Gnome Rep, have localized them and sent one of his lich to
their side, as well as another to the side of Zouron's strike team. The former-undead, still part of
Larloch's mental net, provide both sides (and of course Mister L) with the informations they need to
coordinate their strike.


The Lathanderite church reincarnate or raise their fallen members, and gather informations as well as
forces for the next move. They are suspicious of the Shade, and think that there will not be enough
illithids for everyone that want to squish some squid.

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Lord Talos
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posted December 07, 2001 11:34 AM

Suddenly on Toril, a portal opens from The Plane Of Shadow and an enormous nightwalker comes
from within, his shape of absolute darkness, emanting an aura of emptiness and cold. He sends a
telepathic message to the all forces on Toril, suddenly all hear his voice and feel like an icicle piercing
through their very hearts:
KNOW THAT EVERYONE THAT SHALL ASSAULT THE PLANE OF SHADOW WILL MEET OURS, SHADOW`S,
RESPONSE FOR LONG AGO NETHERESE MADE A PACT WITH OUR RULERS AND THEY THEMSELVES
BECAME A CREATURES OF THE SHADOW. THEREFORE WE WILL DEPLOY A FORCE TO PROTECT THE CITY
OF THE SHADES.

power level of shadows protecting city of the Shades-40, 200 if Shadowlords( who rule the plane)
declare total war.

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Forrester
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posted December 07, 2001 11:41 AM


quote:

Originally posted by Lord Talos:

power level of shadows protecting city of the Shades-40, 200 if Shadowlords( who rule
the plane) declare total war.


You must be new to this . For obvious reasons, you don't get to declare your own power level, my
good man . . . and/or set it equal or greater to the most powerful forces currently in this war. That's up
to Edena The Exhausted to do.

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Forrester
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posted December 07, 2001 11:46 AM


quote:

Originally posted by Gez:
Let see. The forces massed against the Umbran Illithids are:
*The illusory Slaadi, Chaos Beasts, Titans, Eladrins and Djinni (even if they're illusory,
the deal real damages to the mindflayed mindflayers);
*The Gnomes, with their strike team of technodruids, technorangers, paladins,
illusionist wizards, clerics and golems;
*The Magocracy of Zouron, with (former ?) undead and wizards;
*The real Slaadi;
*The real Eladrins;
*The Archons led by Alzem;
*The NeoIllithids;
*The converted Deep Illithids;
*The Sharn;
*"The" Larloch and his buddies;
*and others that I forget.



Um, there are *quite* a few Humanoids down there helping out as well . Now that the Netherese
idiots are gone, the only threat left is the Illithid, and we are going at them full-force. You'll need our
psionics to help shield you from the evil squid-heads (as opposed to the good squid-heads, sorry
about the racial slur!).

Yes, they are more powerful psionically than we are, but with the combined forces of our psioncists, the
Deep Illithid, and the NeoIllithid, I think we are their psionic equals. And with the combined might of
everyone else fighting them . . . they can't stand for long.

Forrester
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Larloch the Former
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posted December 07, 2001 11:46 AM

Edena, I, Larloch, use my arcane power to destroy each magical or psionical protections around the
Elder Brain. Those of my liches that were good in illusion or enchantment help strengthen the gnomish
spells that makes the illithid brain insane and makes it see enemies everywhere. As soon as no more
protections are left, I'll engage it in mental combat, in order to prevent it from coordinating its illithids
and give it the headach of its life. Normally, it won't be able to sense the golem burrowing their wat
into its neurons.

The pain, confusion, and illusions of the brain should much confuse the umbran illithids, who should
be far less effective, and really confused by the contradictory or illogical orders, and by the illusions
they sense through their constant telepathy with the brain.

Meanwhile, two of my liches works to coordinate the action of Zouron's strike team and the gnome
strike team (I think that the fact the gnomes were the first to go in the illithid lairs, and that they used
spells to prevent the illithids from discovering them make them nearer to their objective than
Zouron's, so I'll concentrate on them).

My living elder vampires and my other living liches and various living undead are eradicating all
non-good mindflayer on Toril, the Astral plane, the Ethereal plane, the Shadow plane, and New Umbra.

As soon as the Evil Illithids are eradicated from Realmspace, I'll start to watch very carefully the
Shades, the Phaerimms, the Unseely and the other evil factions. After all, I'm neutral good, now.

By the way, some questions, as it's not clear. It seems every underground creature has had its evil
extirped. So, the phaerimm and independant beholders (we haven't seen them much), notably,
should be good now. As the phaerimm that were not in the underground were in space, fighting the
elves, and have seemingly been vaporized, should we consider the evil phaerimm are no a minority ?

((OOC: I also wonder about the duergar and derros, probably good also. Noone played them, so, if I
contact them, could I get to play them ? Were derros annihilated when "the sun raised inside Toril", or
have them lost their sunlight vulnerability ? And by the way, I assume my vampires don't suffer from
sunlight, now that they're alive, yet still with their vampire powers (much like the elves keeped their
ghostly or spectrely powers, even after been resurrected).))

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Lord Talos
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posted December 07, 2001 12:18 PM

Well Shadows are the natives of The Plane of Shadow( I know this isn`t exactly canon D@D) and
Edena listed the powers of Slaadi, Demons, Devils, Faerie etc at around 200 max.

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Gez
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posted December 07, 2001 12:29 PM

The Bullywugs prophetised by the Gnome Rep, have sensed too that Toril was under threat of
destruction. Havin been smartered by the Rituals of the Four Churches, they quickly created some
weapons. And now, the bullywugs are ready to save Toril. Now, the bullywugs sail in their "glorious"
improvised spelljammers, and head toward the Elven Fleet of Vengeance, in order to destroy it before
they can erase all life on Toril.

Well, even if they've been smartered by the Ritual, they are Bullywugs, no ?

Assuming their barely flying water lilies (yes, that's what they used for spelljammer) are able to reach
space, only to see that all spacial combat is ended since a long time, they'll crash back in their marsh
and wonder why they still sense danger.

OOC: Yes, I thought we needed a small comical relief to shield the young spectators from all the gory
violence of the screen as the squidboys are smashed, squished, toasted, dissolved, disintegrated,
blasted, and otherwise machine-gunned. We don't want that thread to be restricted to the less than 18
years because of the mass slaughter of obnoxious anthroquadropii. Call that a discreet interlude.

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Gez
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posted December 07, 2001 01:44 PM

Questions:

Since all creatures in the Underdark have been cleaned of all evil and hatred (and thus turned to good
alignment):

Are there still Drow ? Last time I heard of them, they were in the ships of the Elves (vaporized) and
those of the humanoids (vaporized also). Normally, all drows are dead. If there was some hidden in
the underdark, they are logically now of good alignment. Lolth and her underlings are gonna be very
pissed -- but well, she's nothing more in the Realms. Eilistraee will get her place in the hierarchy. If
there's no more drows, Lolth is dead also. Other creatures that worship her, driders and chitines, live in
the Underdark...

Speaking of deities, most of the power base for Shar was the humanoids (when they were still evil and
light-hating), and she has lost them after the 7-year war. Now that all underdark denizens (we can
estimate that this is 85% of the remnant of her followers) are good, they won't continue to worship
her. Shar will probably be downranked to lesser power, and this will in all likelihood weaken her Shadow
Weave, and thus weaken the magic of the Shade (a good number of them use the Shadow Weave).

The beholders (those that were not enslaved by phaerimm) will probably join the mess, and do what
they could to restore peace and order. They've probably heard of what has happened through their spy
networks (in thieves guilds, for example), and will probably be interested also by the treasure of the
illithids.

This question is important for druids (and technodruids, hehe): all creatures on Toril gained 3 points in
Intelligence. Does this include animals (who would so have between 4 and 5 Int) ? Has it awakened
vermins (no Int score) and oozes (no Int score) to sentience (the oozes are said to have been
sentient before the Elder Elemental God (or was it Juiblex ? Bah, they're all aliases for avatars of
Tharizdun) absorbed their intellect and consciousness to become the god he is. So, it is possible that
they have gained sentience back (it will be very strange to have to deal with intelligent gelatinous
cubes or giant centipedes). Same questions for constructs ? That's less likely, because they are not
living, but well... Maybe the objects animated by wandering ravids over the times would benefit from
that, rather than golems ? And what about sentient golems (Alias, the gemstone golems, the tomb
tappers) ? Have they received the Int bonus also ?


End of questions.


Since the creature of the Plane of Shadow are protecting the Shadovars (I've heard it's the name of
the citizen of Shade), the Lathanderite considers what they will need to fight them. After all, Shadow
creatures are often undead, bring despair, and are associated to darkness (ooc: the WotC designers
don't seems to think that shadow is made of light and darkness in equal portion, otherwise there
would have been Brightlands as well as Darklands in the PoS), all things that Lathander opposes to.
Furthermore, if Shar's power -- and more importantly, the size of her clergy -- have effectively been
reduced, the fight will not be as tough as it would have been otherwise. However, they are not eager to
fight, they need to recover their magical strengthes, and they want their allies to have their full
abilities too.

The gnomes are occupied with the illithids, but once the mindflaying threat is ended, if the Netherese
needs to be destroyed, they will gleefully attack them. After all, gnomes were enslaved by the Netheril
arcanists, and they don't have kind feelings toward the survivor of Netheril.

If a coalition is made against Shade, the Yuan-ti will offer their help again. And, if the Shade are
losing even without their help, they will engage the combat against them to loot their arcane lore, just
like what they did with the Illithids.

The reaction of other survivors of Netheril, Larloch, the nation of Halruaa and the one of Nimbral, are
less previsible, but we can guess Larloch will act against the Shades (he's good, now), and it's possible
the other also (out of greed for the Shadovar's secrets, or out of fear that they would have to obey to
the Shades' rules). However, they could as well decide to join the Shade "as good old fellows of the
Mighty Netheril" (fearing that the Shade are more powerful than them, and thinking that it's better to
join them voluntarily than to be forced into slavery, or out of lust for the arcane knowledge of the
Shadovar they could grab by working with them).

As for the position of the Cloakers in a fight against the Shade, it's totally unknown. They are being
from the Plane of Shadow too, but they've never allied or communicated with any other race. Noone
can say if they'll attack one side, the other, or just ignore the events.


For Edena or new players, here are the other possible factions that have not been claimed:

Aaracokra
Alaghi ?
Araneas
Asabi ?
The Beast Lord of Dekanter (another powerful spellcaster, probably good now, leading an army of
gargoyles, modified goblins, and other creatures such as beholders, illithids, and various humanoids)
Independant Beholders
Bullywugs (if someone is masochist enough to play them)
Chitines (probably chaotic good, now...) ?
Independant Constructs (gemstone golems, tomb tappers, possible other sentient constructs -- see
"questions" above)
Doppelgangers
Dragonkin
Subterraneans Dwarves (Derros, Duergar, Urdunnir)
Firenewt (probably not numerous nor powerful enough to be played)
Ghaunadan (now good-aligned, and leading sentient oozes ?)
Giants (several factions here)
Giant Eagles and Owls
Gibberlings ? (please tell me no)
Grells
Grimlock (or are them among Forrester's humanoids ?)
Groundling ?
Hags
Harpy ?
Kuo-toa (probably neutral good, now...)
Locathah
Meazel ?
Medusa ?
Merfolk
Minotaurs (à la dragonlance ?)
Naga (but we can assume some are sided with the yuan-ti)
Pterafolk ?
Quaggoth (probably neutral good, now) ?
Sahuagin
Shalarin ?
Siv ?
Sphinx ?
Stinger ?
Triton
Umber Hulk (probably chaotic good, now...)
Winter wolves and worgs (they're not subterranean -- so still evil -- and are quite smart)
Wemic ?

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Forrester
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posted December 07, 2001 02:12 PM


quote:

Originally posted by Gez:
Questions:

Are there still Drow ? Last time I heard of them, they were in the ships of the Elves
(vaporized) and those of the humanoids (vaporized also).
...

Speaking of deities, most of the power base for Shar was the humanoids (when they
were still evil and light-hating), and she has lost them after the 7-year war.


You just don't know your history, do you!

The Humanoid ships went Ethereal as the nukes were hitting; they are all quite alive.

The Humanoids in general numbered, before this last war, 250,000,000 strong. We survived the
7-years war, and survived quite well, thank you.

And the vast majority of my people are secular in faith, preferring to worship at the altars of
technology, science, and psionics. Shar Schmar.

Forrester
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(Post 36) The Second IR

Lord Talos
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posted December 07, 2001 02:23 PM

FOUL DO YOU THINK THAT ONLY SHAR AND SHADES REPRESENT THE FORCES OF ETERNAL NIGHT?!
BEHOLD, FOR THE SHADOW PLANE STRETCHES THROUGH THE ENTIRE MULTIVERSE AND BEYOND! THERE
ARE OTHER GODS OF DARKNESS IN THE MULTIVERSE, WHO TAKE SHELTER IN OUR PLANE, FOR THE
POWER OF THE SHADOW WEAVE COMES FROM THE SHADOW PLANE THROUGH SHAR TO TORIL, NOT
DIRECTLY FROM HERSELF. THERE ARE ALSO MANY OTHER SHADES THAN NETHERESE, FROM DIFFRENT
CRYSTAL SPHERES, AND TREMBLE FOR THE MIGHTY SHADOW DRAGONS ARE ALSO A KIND OF SHADES,
AND THERE ARE EVEN SHADOWFIENDS, FORMER DEVILS AND DEMONS WHO BECAME TIRED OF
BLOODWAR AND MERGED THEIR VERY BEING WITH SHADOWSTUFF. SHADOW PLANE IS ALSO DIRECTLY
CONNECTED WITH NEGATIVE ENERGY PLANE SO THERE ARE MANY UNDEATH AMONG US, ESPECIALLY
POWERFUL LICHES WHO MASTERED THE SHADOW MAGIC. SINCE IT IS OUR HOME TERRITORY I
ESTIMATE THAT FULL FORCES OF TWO PLANES WOULD HAVE TO UNITE TO HAVE ANY HOPE OF
CONQUERING THE SHADOW PLANE SO BETTER BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR WORDS MY DEAR FRIEND GEZ.

FOR DARKNESS WAS THE BEGINNING OF ALL AND IT SHALL BE THE END!!

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Reprisal
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posted December 07, 2001 02:45 PM

"The Technocratic Commonwealth cannot, and will not, be blackmailed by the Yuan-Ti. If you choose
to fight, good for you, we look forward to seeing you at the table of the first World Council, but if you
do not, you can go back to where ever it is you came from... As far as I'm concerned, all those
desiring to be free from tyrannical rule are obligated to fight against these creatures."

As for our forces, we continue to fight bitterly.

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Riot Gear
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posted December 07, 2001 04:29 PM

We are absolutely not giving up. Edena, check your e-mail. Carefully this time.

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Riot Gear
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posted December 07, 2001 04:30 PM

We are absolutely not giving up. Edena, check your e-mail. Carefully this time.

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 07, 2001 06:24 PM

The preliminaries:

Larloch.
Let us say a 1st level mage has a grasp of basic arithmetic.
A 9th level mage has mastered Algebra.
An 18th level mage has learned basic Calculus.
The greatest of the Phaerimm passed Differential Equations and went into Quantum Physics.
Larloch did that, 4000 years ago.
I leave it to your imagination where he is now.

The hundreds of liches he has under utter domination come with him, and behind them comes a
shadow host, a host of darkness, all the beings of the Necropolis of Larloch.

Larloch was just about the most anti-social being on Toril.
The Chosen themselves feared him, and they stated He Is One of Those Things One Leaves Alone.

Larloch had been sitting in silent fury, preparing to wreak vengeance on those who were shaking his
cave, and making the racket, outside.

Even the Humanoid Alliance and Technocracy left him alone (it was determined that if a nuclear missile
was fired at his cave, it would simply turn around and unerringly strike the people who sent it.)

Larloch was so powerful he was beyond good or evil, living in a world beyond the grasp of any but the
greatest of the phaerimm.

The primary effect of the High Ritual of the Four Churches was not to turn him to good, but ... to make
him a social creature.
Larloch, as if he had donned a Helm of Opposition, becomes one of Toril's most social creatures.

The horrific figure of Larloch, which screams power of such magnitude that the greatest of mages cower
in fear, appears in the war chamber of the Technocracy, along with his hundreds of liches, facing the
leader of the Technocracy, awesome and lordly and utterly terrible.

Then, he bows, and says:

A pleasure to meet you, old chap. How can we be of service?

I must presume Larloch and his liches join with Zouron and the gnomes, and everyone else, in their
massive push to find the Elder Brain of the illithid.

Larloch does send one message to Zouron. By telepathy, he says:

I say, my good man, please divest ((get rid)) yourself of the ability to launch the Undeath Plague. A
useless bit of necromancy, that.

The request is given lightly, even jovially, but it is given with finality that would make Edena (who is
121st level) cower in fear ... the request will not be made twice.

- - -

(the following is based upon a post from the now closed thread)

There is a place in the Cosmos called Mount Celestia, and there the celestials reside.
Amidst it's sea of Holy Water, Mount Celestia rises uncountable miles into the blue sky, with it's white
clouds.
And up there, beyond that blue, above the clouds, lays the Seventh Heaven.
Nobody who has ever gone there has ever returned, and it is said the supreme Good resides there.

From that sky a light grows.
The light reaches down through Mount Celestia, through the Astral, through the Prime, to illuminate
the Prime Minister of the Technocracy, even as he is speaking with Larloch.
The glow is silver white, utterly brilliant beyond all brilliance, but it does not harm the eyes.
The glow expands until it fills the war room, and everyone stops what they are doing, looking up in
curiousity.

And then, in awe.

The Angels of the Seventh Heaven walk down out of that light.

The Angels, beyond the comprehension of mortals.
The Angels, who cannot be summoned by any spell, cannot be commanded or controlled by any force,
save it be a force great enough to sunder the Prime itself.

The Angels of the Seventh Heaven descend to the floor, but they do not touch it.
Larloch, face filled with terror, kneels, and all his lich host kneels.

The Angels are transparent, yet they are more solid than adamantine.
They have no gender, yet gender is not needed: they are utterly beautiful, however they are
perceived. Male, female, or otherwise.
They are wearing robes of white gossimar, which are transparent also, but the bodies beneath are
filled with light, and nobody who looks upon them sees the same thing: all see beauty beyond beauty,
supreme power, magnificence, in those bodies.
Each Angel has a gossimer long sword, shealthed at it's side, but no belt is visible to hold those
weapons.

The Angels regard the room with ... love.
Love fills their faces, and it shines in their eyes, and is seen in the sad smiles of their mouths.

The Angels looks at the leader of the Technocracy, and he realizes that his prayers (see the closed
post) have been answered.

They did not come to commit war.
They did not come to avenge past wrongs.
Strategy and tactics are not a part of their thinking.

They came because a desperate man who loved his people, watched them die, pleaded for help.

They came out of mercy. Out of kindness.

The Angel touches the leader of the Technocracy, and that love fills him, and a sensation of joy and
strength fills him that staggers even the High Ritual of the Four Churches.

The Angels look at Larloch, and their gaze is loving, but sad, and Larloch staggers, and places his
undead skull to the floor, and begs for mercy and forgiveness.
The Angels do not speak a word, but it is made clear that mercy and forgiveness are forthcoming, but
Larloch is expected to help against the illithid unconditionally.

The Angels then draw their swords.
The flash of that drawing, of hundreds of Angels drawing their gossimar swords, is as bright as a
hydrogen bomb and more powerful than one, and everyone in the room freezes in their places,
stunned by the unleashing of the power ... although it's force is not directed at them at all.

The Angels, then move ... walk? ... and they disappear through the walls, and out of the war center,
and the great light from the sky grows, and expands, as the Angels march to meet the illithid.

Compared to the Angels of the Seventh Heaven, the illithid are nothing, a paltry green stalk thrown at
a colossal battlement.

The Angels are never angry, never hostile: they do not chant war songs or give battle cries.
They simply regard their foes with pity, with sorrow, and with love a parent would give to a child who
has gone bad, and must be punished.

Their swords chop through psionic defenses and magical defenses like they were not there.
Psionic attacks against them fail, hitting mental shields that cannot be breached.
They cannot be outrun; those that try find the Angels in front of them.
They cannot be outguessed and magical flight is impossible; those that blink or teleport or worldwalk
find the Angels stay right with them, and they die, the slender ethereal swords of the Angels piercing
them through.
The Angels are unstoppable; they walk through defensive walls, which melt or evaporate at simple
commands from them.
The mighty lore and tremendous psionic power of the illithid is useless against what they are up
against.

Eventually the illithid consolidate their force, and assemble into truly MASSIVE units, whole armies, and
finally ... with the combined strength of thousands of them put together, they can hope to stand
against a single Angel.

Since there are over 200 million illithid, and only (only!) a few thousand Angels, the illithid are not
immediately whelmed.

[ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ]


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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 07, 2001 06:30 PM

The undead forces of Zouron's Magocracy (along with the living) march to the attack.
The Deep Illithid and their millions of Thralls swarm to the surface and attack.

From Hope Isle come the celestials and their people.

From the Realm of Faerie come the Unseelie and their allies, the chromatic dragons.

And from Limbo come the legions of the slaadi, a tidal wave of Chaos sweeping all before it's wake.

From the swamps of Toril come the Bullywugs, who are very frightened by machine gun fire and other
loud noises.

Even the kender do their part, trying to sneak into New Umbra, using their kender magic of thievery to
pass through illithid defensive lines nobody else could hope to penetrate.

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 07, 2001 06:38 PM

The High Ritual of the Four Churches did NOT convert all the people living underground to good, nor
did I state it did.

It converted the Deep Illithid, the Aboleth, and their Thralls to good.

It had lesser effects on everyone else.

I wish it had not happened; I had hoped it would never happen, but apparently the City of Shade is
now under full attack, and that draws in the Forces of Shadow from the Plane of Shadow.

The Forces of Shadow and the City of Shade are under full attack, so Total War begins, and the Forces
of Shadow have a strength of 200.

The City of Shade then calls, in a ritual of Arcane Might, ALL of the Netherese it can from the past, into
the present.
In other words, the City of Shade unleashes it's Doomsday Weapon, and it reaches the great strength
given earlier.
The City of Shade is not allied with the illithid of New Umbra, but it might as well be, since both are
now fighting everyone else.

The might of the mages of Netheril is awesome.
I cannot understate just how incredibly powerful they are: Larloch is one of the great among them, and
he has had 4000 years to grow further, but these are his lesser siblings.
And there are thousands of them.
Thousands of them.
Thousands upon thousands of mages of Epic and Super Epic Level, carrying the greatest destructive
magic ever created upon Toril, exceeding even the elven High Magic: for elven High Magic takes time
to cast, while these mages can unleash their full powers in seconds.

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Reprisal
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posted December 07, 2001 06:48 PM

The Prime Minister slowly recovers from the truly Divine experience and stands slowly. He bows his
head to Zarloch and says, "Do what you need to do, Great Zarloch. The Umbran Mind Flayers are being
attacked by the - the Angels, and now, the Netherese have decided to call upon a host of the most
powerful magicians the world has ever seen. The Commonwealth fights on all sides against the two
forces, as do many other forces around the world. All you need but do is pick a target, Lord(?)
Zarloch."

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Riot Gear
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posted December 07, 2001 06:58 PM

The Umbral Illithid GAWK at the indescribable power of these holy creatures, almost terrified beyond
belief. They coalesce in to clusters of of Illithid, travelling in massive swarms through the ether. They
quickly learn that this allows them to tear through non-angels like a hot knife through butter. They can
kind of deal with an angel, slow down two.

Edena, we want to summon the Elder Ones. Anywhere. Doesn't matter. How long till we can?

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TheBalor
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posted December 07, 2001 06:59 PM

Forrester, do you still have that iron golem army from the 7 year war? It could come in handy right
now.

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Riot Gear
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posted December 07, 2001 07:24 PM

The Umbral Illithid GAWK at the indescribable power of these holy creatures, almost terrified beyond
belief. They coalesce in to clusters of of Illithid, travelling in massive swarms through the ether. They
quickly learn that this allows them to tear through non-angels like a hot knife through butter. They can
kind of deal with an angel, slow down two.

Edena, we want to summon the Elder Ones. Anywhere. Doesn't matter. How long till we can? It is our
HIGHEST priority. We do whatever is necessary to bring it about.

[ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: Riot Gear ]

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zouron
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posted December 07, 2001 08:04 PM

oocish ponders why everyone calls a power level 20 undead force a strike team...

ohh and BTW any chance I can unleash the undeaad plague on the city of shade?

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 07, 2001 08:24 PM

ARMAGEDDON

- - -

I have received the following e-mail from the illithid player:

Okay, so our last plan went down the drain thanks to sub-par intelligence on the part of our psionic
thralls. We eat their brains.

New plan.

We go Powergamer. If it moves, we kill it. If it's a challenge, we kill it. Every Illithid on Toril now is in a
constant state of blood frenzy, and desires to gain as much XP as possible.

To recover between these explosive battles, we Plane Shift (we can do that) to the Positive Energy
Plane. Our goal is nothing short of killing every
living creature on the face of Toril.

Our tactics:

For humanoids, we Plane Shift directly in to their midst and HAMMER them with as many as thirty
simultaneous Mind Blasts. We will not take the risk of allowing them to return psychic fire.
Keep in mind that all of our troops have magictech similar to Humanoid level, and although Particle
Beams and what not are out of our league, we
can rip out MP5's like the best of them. The Elder Brain knows it is going to die. It cannot survive
forever. It accepts this.
It delegates all command to it's immediate underling, and enters a state of deep meditation,
preparing for the biggest psychic THWOMP of its existence.
The first person to attack it head on will be hit by a psychic assault that will inflict 4d10 temporary
Intelligence damage, or as much as the Brain can pull off. Even the lich.
We are expanding a Neo Neo New Umbra, but this one is just a bolt hole to hide in, not a city. We do
everything we can to hide it. It's inside Toril's sun.
Additionally, 500 Illithid (Or as many as can attack him simultaneously) attempt to Dominate Zouron
and turn him and his undead plague on the rest of the world. Feel free to roll the saving throws.

We also attempt to discover how to strong arm the Phaerimm in to summoning the Elder Ones. We
MAKE IT HAPPEN if it is at all possible!

We are prepared to run away from this situation FAST if necessary, migrating through the plane of
Shadows to Earth, a planet with no magical defenses to speak of where they should be able to become
rulers through sheer vicious aggression. Angels couldn't survive there, and even if their psionic powers
are greatly weakened, they intend to rule.

That was the e-mail.

And the City of Shade has conjured all it's allies from the past, and all the Forces of the Plane of
Shadow have come to it's aid.

- - -

The single greatest firefight in the history of Toril begins.
It beggars description; it is massive beyond comprehension, it fills the atmosphere of Toril, it spills
like a tidal wave into the Underdark, it screams into the heavens.

How does one describe such a battle??
It is the fire-bombing of Dresden, it is Pearl Harbor, it is Omaha Beech.
It is the Wehrmacht invasion of Poland and Russia, it is the City of Stalingrad, it is the sands of
countless beaches in the West Pacific.

Psionics battle psionics, titantic psionic blasts that level entire regions and turn whole armies into goo.
It is the explosion of thousands of nuclear weapons, both those fired at the illithid and those
detonated by the illithid as they transport their enemy's weapons back over their own cities and
military bases.
It is the unstoppable light of the Angels, as they throw down the mightiest fortifications like they were
made of cards, cut through the illithid like a million scythes through a field of grain, pursue the illithid
to every Plane and every place in the Multiverse they could flee to.
It is the utter pandemonium of all out street fighting, as slaadi and illithid battle, the streets so filled
with illithid goo and slaadi pieces the combatants might as well be skating on an ice hockey rink.
It is the fury of the oceans, it is volcanoes exploding, titantic earthquakes shaking the land, the
people of Luna and Selune watching in awe as Toril lights up, flaring brilliantly like the sun itself, then
fading to glow with an unholy, red, dripping aura, then flaring again into that brilliant white, the surface
invisible.
The skies of Toril thunder with the roar of a million artillery barrages, the blasts of thousands of
dragons, the explosions of titantic spells, and the psychic energies that make the atmosphere glow
with the sheer amount of energy being unleashed, causing an Aurora Borealis over the entire planet.

The illithid fail to create a new New Umbra in the sun (nice try.)
They almost succeed in Gating in the Elder Ones; many phaerimm die stopping them, sacrificing
themselves to hold the Gates shut and seal them.
They succeed in making the lesser boltholes they desired to make, and their enemies seek these out.

There is no quarter given or asked for in this battle, and none is expected.
There is only the victor and the vanquished, and nobody pulls any punches.

The illithid attempt to dominate Zouron is successful, but Larloch then frees him.
The illithid succeed in smashing Zouron's army with whelming waves of psionics that make the very
land shatter, but counter-retaliation from Zouron's people whelms their forces, dragging them to the
ground, slaying them.

The great effort to find the Elder Brain succeeds, with the combined strength of Larloch, the
Technocracy, the Humanoids, Zouron's Magocracy, and others behind it.
The Technocracy instantly launches nuclear weapons that teleport without error to that site, but the
illithid are faster - emergency contingency spells that were placed there for that very purpose whisk the
Elder Brain to a new location in a small fraction of a second.
Where the Elder Brain was, hundreds of megatons of nuclear fury turn the land into a molten sea, and
fill the sky with a glory to match the dark glory of the Wave of Shade that is sweeping out from the
City of Shade to envelop all the lands.

The war effective goes beyond the control of the people who started it.
As communication lines are destroyed, leaders killed, capital cities blown up or reduced to pools of
slime by psionics, and as armies are whelmed in Shadow or annihiliated by unearthy magical barrages,
the torrent of slaughter turns into a tidal wave, a sea of destruction without reason or purpose, only
the desire to see the foe dead is left in any mind.

Toril glows like a Christmas tree, and the flashes of battles on it's surface are like a million stars
flashing on and off.

The illithid are losing, and they know it, and they resolve in their fury that if they must go, so shall
their foes.
They turn their psionic energies against the planet, and blast Toril with all the eternal, immense hatred
of their race.
Toril reels under the assault, and earthquakes grip every land, great cracks ripping the earth apart,
waterfalls of lava exploding out of those gashes.

The allies again attempt to locate the Elder Brain, and again they succeed, but again the Elder Brain is
whisked away, and again countless megatons of nuclear might create a new star on Toril's surface.

The City of Shade has sent it's shadow warriors out, and they fall upon the allies in total fury.
Shadow magic strives against particle cannons, batteries of technomagic, legions of soldiers armed
with firearms that shoot barrages of magic missiles and lightning bolts.
Shadow magic swallows up whole cities, all the inhabitants instantly converted into Shades, to serve
their new masters.
Shadow magic rends the very essence of Toril, and the planet reels again, and protests in violent
heaves, bleeding red fire from countless wounds and gashes, as the Weave rises up in fury against
the Shadow, the two forces clashing in the skies, producing hurricane force winds and blast waves,
creating light shows that rival the nuclear explosions, shaking Toril like an angry giant would shake a
castle tower.

And still, the essence of what is happening cannot be fully appreciated.
To fully appreciate it, you'd have to be there.
Hiding in your cellar, watching the sky turn into a fireworks display beyond the greatest dreams or even
the greatest imaginations of the 2000 Turn of the Millenium planners.
You'd have to feel the titantic earthquakes, the roars of protest from the very gutrock of Toril as it
cries out in pain, as it strikes back in fury against those hurting it.
You'd have to hear the endless deafening noise, as thousands of nuclear weapons explode, as the
atmosphere convulses in the battle between Weave and Shadow; as over the entire planet the sky is
suddenly filled with hurricanes and typhoons, storms and blizzards, multicolored clouds unleashing
torrents of lighting that blast anything and everything on the ground to smithereens.
You'd have to be caught in the wild magic storms, watch reality twist and distort, Gates opening to
other Planes, the stuff of pure Chaos pouring in, feel gravity reverse, then fail altogether, then return
three times as strong as normal, then fail again.

I fear, folks, that my imagination falls pathetically short of what it would take to describe what is
happening.

If two armies of a million tanks each, every one armed with a heavy particle cannon, laser cannons,
blasters, were sitting and facing each other at twenty paces, and every tank was firing every weapon it
had, it would be a miniature version of what is happening on Toril.

And the battle spreads to Selune, and to Luna, into Wildspace.
It spills over, like an unstoppable tidal wave, into Greyspace, into Great Space, onto the unsuspecting
and helpless people of dozens of Crystal Spheres.

The Sigilian Mages and Sharn cannot hold the portals to Sigil closed; they try and fight to the end, and
are slaughtered, buried under the tidal wave.
The warring factions all but tear the Astral Gates from their hinges (if it were possible) with sheer force,
and the war crashes into Sigil.

The Lady of Pain acts immediately, sending her forces to stop the oncoming tsunami of battling
fighters, and her forces are swept aside like they were dust before a broom.
The Lady of Pain then exercises her powers as a God, exterminates ALL those fighting, on all three
sides, then closes the Gates to Realmspace.
That buys Sigil some peace, until the fight erupts out of Greyspace, where it has spilled into, and once
more Armaggedon spills into the City of Neutrality.
In a fury, the Lady of Chaos sends her forces to stop this new invasion, and again they are swept
aside.
Again, she exercises her powers as a God, and kills all involved in the fighting, and seals the Gates to
Greyspace.

On Toril, as the firefight continues, as millions of people die, as cities crash down, as caverns collapse,
as the earth is torn asunder, the Weave itself is damaged, then damaged more, as it is vibrated
beyond control.
As it's threads snap, Mystra screams in pain, as Chauntea has been doing for some time, and then
magic and psionics go crazy worldwide.
Spells misfire, wild magic surges kill friend and foe, psionics fail, the brains of thousands of illithid
melt and flow out of their ears.

The slaadi tried to keep the battle out of Limbo, but they failed.
The forces from the City of Shade force their way in, crush the magical defenses set up, and slaughter
the slaadi in mountains of bodies.
The slaadi, of course, fight back, and the Stuff of pure Chaos flows into Realmspace in vast quantities,
even as the battle on Toril itself summons more Chaos, and yet more, until effectively a Wave of
Chaos is hitting Realmspace.

The Wave of Chaos momentarily stops most of the fighting on Toril, as all magic and psionics cease
working, as reality stretches, then twists and pulls like taffy.
Only the Angels of the Seventh Heaven are unaffected, and they take this chance to reap an
enormous harvest among the illithid.

The Wave of Chaos alters the fundamental principals of gravity, magnetism, and the weak and strong
nuclear forces.
On Toril, this isn't a problem; they have so many problems already that it's barely noticed that gravity
suddenly doesn't work right anymore.

But Toril is a normal planet in a planetary system governed by a Type G star, and that Type G star is a
normal star, powered by the fusion reactions going on in it's core.

When the Wave of Chaos, created by the bedlam on Toril and the battle for the Gates of Limbo,
reaches the sun and passes through it, it alters the fundamental rules of how the thermonuclear
reactions work.
The temperature required for a thermonuclear reaction suddenly becomes twice as great as normal,
then twice as small, then it changes from place to place across the sun.
The gravity fails in some parts of the sun, and becomes many times greater than normal in other
parts of the sun.
The helium ash at the core of the sun is alternately compressed and freed, and the temperature
required for the helium flash goes up, then down, then up, then down.

As a result, the now destabilized sun changes shape, turning into on oval, then back into a sphere,
then it splits open, the core revealed, then it closes again, then it shrinks, then expands.
Vast waves of superheated gas rocket out into space at light speed, then - hit by the chaos - they
change directions erratically, and some turn into ice crystals at just above absolute zero, but all
continue to fly across space, filling the region around the sun with an ever greater cloud of stellar
debris.
The revealing of the core exposes the entire solar system to a massive death ray, as vast amounts of
gamma radiation reach into space.
As the sun convulses, and grows ever more unstable, bigger and bigger jets of matter erupt from it's
core, and some of these jets - violating the speed limit of light, reach the Crystal Sphere in an instant,
shattering against it's side, richocheting back into Realmspace.

Toril, the Cradle of Life, puts up a defense.
In spite of it all, Toril defends itself from the sun.
Gathering it's magic, magic of unimaginable strength from it's fiery core, Toril defends itself.
A shimmering silver shield appears around the planet, far enough out to protect Selune and Luna also.
The great blasts from the sun, hit the shield, and the shield staggers, but holds, even as the entire
world of Toril rocks from the hit.
The gamma radiation hits the shield, and the shield florescences in every color of the rainbow, as it
staves off the lethal, immensely powerful radiation.
The shield around Toril holds, even as those it is protecting continue their battle, unable to see what is
happening to the sun, too locked in their fury to even care, no quarter given or taken, death to all the
foe, kill or be killed, all the full insanity and crazyiness of war taken to it's ultimate conclusion.

The Shield, remains up. It will remain up, forever, for the Angels - taking mercy on the mortals of
Toril, in their love, do not allow it to fall.

On Toril itself, (HEH, YES, I CAN SAY IT!!!) elf and drow, elf and humanoid, phaerimm and sharn,
illithid and man, undead and the living, Angels and slaadi (I don't know what Iuz did ...), kender and
neoillithid, the Chosen and the Zhentarim, Technomancer and druid, Tuigan warrior and high tech
fighter, stand together in united strength against the illithid and the City of Shade, AND ... THEY ...
ARE ... TRIUMPHANT.

The illithid Elder Brain is found at last, and although the illithid fight to the end, nuclear weapons and
Angelic fury clear the way, and the Elder Brain falls.
The City of Shade is surrounded, and it retreats to the Plane of Shade, but the Angels pursue, and the
slaadi, and all the infuriated people of Toril who can planar travel (which is to say, millions of them),
and they besiege the city in it's own plane.
The portals to the Positive Material Plane are opened, and the City cannot withstand them; all
attempts to negate the incoming energy are thwarted, and the City of Shade withers in that energy,
crumpling, disintegrating, it's people crying out in their death throes, as their building wither and
topple onto them, melting into shadowy slush, and evaporing in the Positive Energy.

As the Chaos Wave passes, the sun slowly returns to normal, and the threat of an impending Nova is
averted.
Realmspace is not arbitrarily (and with ultimate finalty) laid to rest by the cleansing energies of the
sun, but is given another chance, a chance at a new future.

When the battle ends, the magnetosphere reverts back to the way the High Ritual made it, as the
illithid attempt to corrupt it collapses.
The silver shield around Toril remains, forever, but it becomes invisible, and slowly becomes
quiescient, as it is needed less and less (as the sun returns to normal.)

There is catastrophic destruction on Toril.
Toril is a teutonic hell.
Volcanoes are exploding, great cracks have sundered the main continents.
The seas have rushed in, clouds of steam combine with the dust to fill the atmosphere.
Violent storms, hurricanes, chase each other around the world.
Incessant earthquakes continue, as the outraged and injured planet writhes in pain.
Wild magic storms rage unchecked.

Half the population of the world of Toril is dead.
The other half, is not dead.

The other half, had better do something, NOW, if they wish to remain alive, because the throes of the
world will surely kill them, if they do not act.
Magic returns to enough of a semblance of normalcy that it can be used.
Psionics also become usable again.
Technology, functions again.

That is not to say that any of these three forces work truly right - all of them have this tendency to go
crazy at times, and to be unstable at all times, but they do work.

Actions, please?

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 07, 2001 08:30 PM

The kender ambassador, who somehow survived all of the above, walks into the command center of
the Technocracy, glares at all present, hands on his hips, and says:

Can we have an actual, real, peace conference now?

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Riot Gear
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posted December 07, 2001 08:40 PM

WHEE!!!

How many XP did I get out of THAT before I bought it?

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posted December 07, 2001 08:42 PM

I would guess that Moriartty was swept aside and completely annihilated when he tried to control the
chaos wave as it entered Toril.

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Riot Gear
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posted December 07, 2001 08:47 PM

WHEE!!!

How many XP did I get out of THAT before I bought it?

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posted December 07, 2001 08:50 PM

Moriartty survived.
Is he returning to the peace conference (what is he doing?)

Riot Gear, the Angels capture a SINGLE evil illithid, chain it up so that it cannot escape by any known
means in existence, then plop it down at the peace table ... where it will have the pleasure of having
to explain to the people of Toril it's people's actions.

That illithid, YOU, gets ten billion experience points, but you have to live through the peace
conference, methinks, before you can make use of them (the illithid may attempt to hire an attorney
to represent itself ...)

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Riot Gear
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posted December 07, 2001 08:52 PM

10 Billion? That's way too much. That would leave my LEVEL in exponential notation. Let's say that if I
survive I'm 80th level.

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posted December 07, 2001 08:53 PM

Well I do not know what Moriartty can do. It seems he wasted him time pretty much since he was able
to do nothing to the chaos wave.

Are there any Sharn left? I no longer have Sigil as a client since there is no way for me to get there.
The place has been ravaged just as my clients feared and the Lady of Pain just exterminated who
knows how many millions and then locked the doors, ALL the doors.

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posted December 07, 2001 08:55 PM

Sigil was not badly damaged, and deaths were in the tens of thousands there, not millions.

The Lady of Pain, seeing the battle is over, reopens the Gates to Realmspace and other places.

About half of the Sharn survived.

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posted December 07, 2001 08:56 PM

The Neoillithid and the Deep Illithid, after allowing themselves to stand in shock for all of five seconds,
act as one. They link minds across all of Realm-Space and begin the mass coordination of the
restoration of Toril. Some of them concentrate on using their own psionic powers to stabilize the world,
while others work to get help from the other forces and see that it is applied as effectively and
efficiently as possible.

Pervading all of the intense energy and concentration of their efforts, is a feeling of joy that, until now,
few Illithid have ever experienced... righteous victory.

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posted December 07, 2001 09:00 PM

It starts working immediately, especially since the Afterglow of the High Ritual is still felt in the gutrock
of Toril.

The combined might of the deep illithid and neoillithid begins, very slowly, to calm down the
volcanoes, slow the gushing of the world's blood onto the surface.
Slowly the storms and hurricanes lessen, slowly the Wild Magic storms lose their horrific grip.

The Angels help the deep illithid and neo illithid, their beautiful faces lowered in concentration, heads
bowed, as they link their combined might.
Their swords, glittering with the light of Heaven, are sheathed now, their radiant hands are raised in
gestures of peace and aid.

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Riot Gear
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posted December 07, 2001 09:01 PM

Doc, I might need some help here. I represent the sole surviving legal heir to a vast, vast fortune in
psionic lore.

Vast.

I can certainly pay.

All I need is for you to help me explain the (certainly justified) actions of my people to preserve their
culture against a horde of lesser creatures attempting to destroy their art and history.

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posted December 07, 2001 09:06 PM

Moriartty sits back down at his chair he had conjured what seems to be years ago.

"Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!"

He laughs for as long as he can before running out of breath.

"I guess peace should be pretty easy now. I do not think any superpower still have a doomsday
weapon that they could use."

Moriartty smiles at what he thinks is a very comforting fact.

"The Sharn and Sigil both offer the following. Toril is very badly hurt. One assett that Sigil has in
quantity is knowledge. My clients know of gates to hundreds of worlds where no intelligent life has yet
begun. Anyone who is interested can consider moving. In addition raw materials can be gathered from
those places to help rebuild here and feed people.

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posted December 07, 2001 09:12 PM

Actually, the Deep Illithid probably know/have just as much the remaining Umbran Illithid...
They were more or less the same faction stationed on different planes until quite recently, after all.

As for the Neoillithid and Deep-Illithid's stance on their surviving evil relative... They lobby that he be
given the opportunity to have his alignment shifted. And strongly suggest to him that evil is, indeed,
highly overrated. They do not support this being forced upon him, however. (Some of the Deep-Illithid
are questioning the morality of essentially having their entire race mind-warped... they tend to come
to the conclusion that it is vastly preferable to the alternative, and that the irony is just too impressive
to complain about it.)

Aside from that one suggestion, they will speak neither for nor against him until called upon, for the
time being.

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posted December 07, 2001 09:15 PM

Are you attempting to hire a lawyer?

Moriartty walks over and says a few quiet words to the lone illithid.

"As the sole survivor of his race my client should be allowed proper representation so that he may get
a fair trial"

BTW - Moriartty is Neutral in alignment.


quote:

Originally posted by Riot Gear:
Doc, I might need some help here. I represent the sole surviving legal heir to a vast,
vast fortune in psionic lore.

Vast.

I can certainly pay.

All I need is for you to help me explain the (certainly justified) actions of my people to
preserve their culture against a horde of lesser creatures attempting to destroy their
art and history.



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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 07, 2001 09:20 PM

Very well.
The other powers, besides negotiating a permanent peace, must appoint a prosecuting attorney, and
make their case before the Court.

(Yes, there is a Court. Don't worry about who the judge is ...)

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Riot Gear
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posted December 07, 2001 09:25 PM

Thanks, Moriartty.

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posted December 07, 2001 09:26 PM

Check again. I just told the assembled represenatives that you deserved proper representation.


quote:

Originally posted by Riot Gear:
I'll take it that is a No, Morriarty?



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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 07, 2001 09:27 PM

Ok.

Moriartty is the defense attorney for the evil illithid.

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posted December 07, 2001 09:30 PM

The Deep Illithid are quick to point out that the Umbran is, in fact, the sole surviving *evil* member of
his race.

The Neoillithid and the Deep Illithid represent themselves separately.

The Neoillithid individually defend their actions against the elf fleet, the shadows, and even the
Umbran Illithid... all as self defense and/or the justified defense of others.


The Deep Illithid of Toril plead guilty to crimes against Sentience... They agree to pay for their crimes
as best they can and abide by the decision of the court (assuming it is a universally accepted
authority). They request, however, that the massive alignment-shift of their race be considered as a
mitigating factor... that it be recognized that (they hope) they will never engage in such atrocities
again. They plead for forgiveness from their former thralls, and promise to make restitution... if that
remains a possibility in light of the court's decision.

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posted December 07, 2001 09:31 PM

First off I would like to request that the judge not bias the court by referring to my client as evil. He
has a name or if you would prefer as the last of his race he can merely be called Illithid.

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posted December 07, 2001 09:47 PM

Is this really the time for a trial? Toril needs to be rebuilt.

I do not understand, what is the point?

Let us kill this Illithid, and be done with it. It matters not if he thought he was justified in trying to
bring to an end all life on Toril . . . not at all. Let us finish him, and move on.

I am intereted in determining exactly what it would take to close off Toril to *all* extraplanar
influences and visitors, so that this might never happen again.

Any suggestions?

Forrester
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Riot Gear
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posted December 07, 2001 09:51 PM

I will allow my name to be spoken by these thralls - these thralls who, in their might, have proven
themselves thralls no longer.

My name is Qualabstercorian, Keeper of Honored Memory. I am the last of my culture. The last of my
nation. I am the last.

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posted December 07, 2001 10:04 PM

"I seriously suggest my client refrain from all comments until a Judge and a prosecuting attorney have
been chosen."

"After the prosecution has made its opening statement then I shall rebutt and the case shall ebgin in
earnest."

Moriartty looks over at the Chosen.

"Until that point I request that my client be sequestered away from teh delegates for everyones
benefit."

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posted December 07, 2001 10:10 PM

I can deal with that.

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posted December 07, 2001 10:13 PM

I can deal with that.

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Gez
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posted December 07, 2001 10:16 PM

What ? I left for sleep, the illithids where attacked by almost everything and could be expected to be
all slaughtered in less than 30 seconds, and when I come back they survived and are tried ? That's
silly. Why can't we just destroy them all and get rid of their evil once and for all ? What's the point in
keeping them ? Grrr.

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Phasmus
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posted December 07, 2001 10:22 PM

The Neoillithid and Deep Illithid provide expert witnesses...
Who better to comment on the case than creatures who were once as the accused?

They provide psionic restraints of their own design... just in case.

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Riot Gear
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posted December 07, 2001 10:26 PM

We were in screaming vicious Elder One mode, ready to kill anything and everything. This Illithid
alone, the last of his culture, has earned enough XP to reach 80th level should he survive this trial.

He will accept everything that Doc Morriarty tells him. Quasabstercorian, ever pragmatic, is thinking
very hard about his situation and would really prefer to live with it. He cannot change his nature or his
alignment dramatically, but he can shift towards LN(Evil Tendencies)

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 07, 2001 10:53 PM

The one illithid is on trial, not the neoillithid or the deep illithid.

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Riot Gear
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posted December 07, 2001 11:04 PM

And he will be on tomorrow. For now, he sleeps. If the rest of you feel the urge to continue to play,
write up elaborate plans for your reconstruction of Toril and send them to Edena TOMORROW. We
need sleep!

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Gez
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posted December 07, 2001 11:23 PM

OK, only one Illithid survived, and he's the one that's tried.

The Church of Lathander propose a Paladin as prosecuting attorney.

His first action is "Detect Evil". As it magically "beeps", he know that the Illithid is guilty.

"I suppose this creature will not have the idiocy of pleading non-guilty. It is accused of
- Deliberately planning death and slaughter against the Churches of Lathander, Chauntea, Shune,
Sharess, who did no harm to anyone. The exact contrary, in fact.
- Deliberately trying to unleash armaggedon upon a world that was still in the process of being
repaired from the previous war, and having recidived several times in their attempt to commit the
greatest crime conceivable ever.
- Having tried to enthrall all life forms in their dictatorial regime, which goes against every principle and
convictions of all the targeted people.
- Indulging in irrepentant evil.
As aggravational circumstances, the accused is not from the World of Toril, and has thus no
fundamental rights to exist in our cosmolgy.
Furthermore, its whole way of life is utterly incompatible with the life of everyone else on this world.
Its hatred is still visible, even palpable.
It is guilty, and cannot be acquitted.
It is guilty, and for the punishment, we havn't a mass of choice:
- Exiling it in another cosmology, with the risk of it gathering its sibling and coming back to Toril in
order to "avenge" itself. This is too risky, and can't be accepted.
- Enforcing an alignment change, with a ceremony akin to the one the Four Churches have already
done -- and such a ritual could be useful, given the state in which the foolishness of that creature and
its deceased siblings put Toril into. It could then live as a normal citizen of Toril, among the other
Illithids who have seen the Light and rejected the Darkness that obscured their mind.
- Destroying it utterly and completely, so that this evil is never to return.
Of these choice, only the two latter are possible.
Arguing over proofs or circumstances is futile -- noone can claim they have no clue of what the Illithids
of New Umbra did. We should settle this matter instantly. And, in the name of every living thing of
Toril, that creature can't be released on the world as it is now. It should be dead or redeemed. No
other choices are possible without becoming guilty of crime againt sentience, life and Toril itself."

The Church of Lathander declare that they favor the redeeming sentence.
The Gnomes declare that they favor the death sentence.

Meanwhile, the Yuan-ti have a small question for Edena: Where they successfull in looting all what
they can from New Umbra ?

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posted December 07, 2001 11:27 PM

(said solemnly, seriously)

As the deep illithid, the neoillithid, and the Angels continue to work, they are joined by others.
Gradually, the volcanoes cease erupting. The rivers of molten fire cool and go dark.
Aided by the massive efforts of the Four Churches, the pain of the world eases, and the great quakes
die down slowly into tremors, then cease.
Now the Weave and Shadow Weave are not shaking so violently, although they are still reverberating,
remembering, the aftermath of the cataclysmic event still resounding through them.

As the healing continues, the tidal waves in the ocean slowly subside, the hurricane winds lessen,
lightning ceases to pound the ground in vast sheets, becoming sporadic and less brilliant.

Still the healing continues.

The people of Toril feel the winds subside, the earthquake dwindled to a tremor, and they peek out of
their shelters.
They come out of storm cellars.
They stream out of the special saferooms in the cube cities, poking their way through the ruins.
They come up out of dwarven and gnomish cities, out of humanoid underground bunkers.
They peek out of the edges of forests.
They look around the mouths of caves.

The sky is dark and gloomy, filled with steam and dust, and the gloom is moving, clouds streaming by
in an endless procession on the disturbed winds of the atmosphere.
Those clouds stream by, but they thin, and it gets a little bright.
The clouds thin a little further, the quakes lesser to a minor tremble, the wind blows gently now, and
the terrified populace perks up it's courage, and more people spill out into the open, looking around,
looking up at the sky.

The clouds thin sufficiently, and the sun appears, red and sullen, wreathed in clouds of radiant debris,
great jets and plumes coming from it, but it IS the sun, and Toril's first Post-Armaggedon Sunrise is at
hand.

A dwarf, walking up out of the blood drenched wreckage of his dwarven city in the Clawrift, raises his
axe, still covered with illithid blood, and he gives a great cry:

Victory!

The sound of bells breaks the silence, bells, bells everywhere.

In Silverymoon, the bells ring lustily from all the undamaged spires.
The people give a great cheer as the sun appears.

In the devastated capital city of the Technocracy, the cries of tens of thousands of voices raises in a
great shout, echoing across the land, taken up by others who hear it.

Victory! Victory!

In the Humanoid lands, Queen Amlaruil and Forrester were fighting back to back.
Now the Queen flushes with delight, turns and grabs Forrester, embraces him in a most Sharresite way,
and offers him a luscious, long, deep, kiss.

While around them a great crowd of humanoids and elves sing, and roar, and blow trumpets, and beat
on great drums.

Victory! Victory! VICTORY!

The flag of the Technocracy is raised in triumph over it's capital, to the cheers of a hundred thousand
people.

The news spreads quickly, spread by the still functioning technomagic.

The cheers and shouts, the singing and the sound of instruments, the boom of drums and the victory
chants, resonate across Faerun, across the Hoardlands - now restored, New Umbra gone - across
Kara-Tur.

In the temples of the East, monks, priests, and priestesses bow in silent prayer, giving thanks for their
salvation, while the peasants cheer, and the warriors assemble under their commanders for solemn
ceremonies.

On Hope Island, a massive impromptu celebration breaks out, and on northern Maztica, the elves
there breathe a sigh of relief that it's over.
The Tuigan hoards race across their plains, banners held high (illithid impaled on them), triumphant.

Off the coasts of Var the Golden, across the length and breath of Chult and the Sword Coast, in the
Shining Sea, cannonades go off from the ships, their colors brightly flying, in tribute to the victory.

The victorious fleet of the Humanoids returns in triumph from the Ethereal Plane, along with the host
of githyanki, and with the phaerimm, swarming across the sky, Humanoid banners floating from each
of them, grisly trophies by the thousands on their decks.

The cheers spread worldwide, to all the continents of Faerun, and into it's oceans.

Across Wildspace, the cheers are picked up and reflected back from the moons, as the people of
Selune and Luna celebrate, fire cannons, sing, chant, and dance.

Victory! Victory! Victory!

The grim task of rebuilding and the very awful task of burying the dead remains, but for the moment
elation sweeps the planet.

And in the temples of the Four Churches, the priests and priestesses who remain consummate their
passion in one of the greatest rites of passion yet seen, while their followers dance with glee, and
drink with abandon, or run singing and yelling about, elation on their faces.

Armaggedon is over, and we have survived, and we have triumphed!

Victory!

The priests and priestesses of the Four Churches, make it the One Church.

From this point forth, all the clergy, male and female, worship all four Gods/Goddesses - Lathander,
Sharess, Chauntea, and Sune, in that order.
They practice the rituals of all four, and the four blur together into one great ritual of hope, renewal,
love, ecstascy, and oneness with the Weave and the World that shelters them.
The clergy of Llirra, our Lady of Joy, very quickly merge, and the Five Churches merge into one.
Selune's clergy move heavily into this church, dragging Selune into it, and very slowly her people
merge into the greater faith.

It will not be long before the Church of the Sun and Stars will rise in it's full glory, and with it's
combined might, begin the process of restoration, of healing the hurts of the world, of resurrecting the
dead, of comforting the living, and of celebrating, teaching the arts of hedonism to even the deep
illithid (horrors!!!) who can now feel it due to the change in the world, inspiring a new sense of purpose
and planning for a better tomorrow.

The gnomes create new medicines, or will, that stave off radiation sickness, and the priests and
priestesses of Mystra work to save those who fall sick from the Weave Poisoning (the damaged Weave
is literally making people become sick and die.)

All over Toril, the process of rebuilding begins ... it is just beginning, but everyone is involved.

Everyone.
Even the phaerimm and the sharn, have put aside their differences, and are working together to
rebuild.
Even the kender are being treated with respect, perhaps for the first time, as they work dilligently in
the rebuilding process.

Those resurrected or cured of their Thralldom by the High Ritual marvel at the world changed, and
they, in their millions, join in in the restoration effort.
And the drow resurrectees put aside their ancient differences with the elves, and rejoin them.
The svirfnebli put aside their wars with the drow and illithid, and join ranks with them.

Even the aboleth come to the surface to lend a hand, along with a hoard of former thralls, and
everyone looks curiously at the strange beings from below: and soon the aboleth are faced with the
horror every Krynnite fears: a dozen kender are all asking a dozen questions at once to their faces,
since they are so new and different.
But the aboleth only smile, and communicate back with their mighty telepathic powers.

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Gez
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posted December 08, 2001 12:18 AM

Reconstructing Toril.

Edit: Modified to take into account what Edena said while I was typing this.

The Church of the Sun and Stars agree to perform the Life Ritual again.

However, they don't have enough magical power left, now that they've sacrificed several of their relics
to power the first, to perform a second alone.

They need support from as much churches as possible to that effort.

This new ritual would resurrect the people fell to the Illithids and the Shadow Creatures, as well as
ensure all raised creatures are of good alignment (if necessary by changing their alignment at the
moment they are raised).

The churches of the eights gnome gods (minus Urdlen, but including Gond) merrily agree to help. But
that's not enough.

Delegates are sent to the churches and/or druid orders and/or bardic conclaves of
Aerdrie, Akadi, Angharradh, Anhur, Arvoreen, Azuth, Berronar, Brandobaris, Clangeddin, Corellon,
Cyrollalee, Deep Sashelas, Deneir, Dugmaren, Dumathoin, Eilistraee, Eldath, Erevan, Fenmarel, Finder,
Geb, Gorm, Grumbar, Gwaeron, Haela, Hanali, Hathor, Helm, Horus-Re, Ilmater, Isis, Kelemvor,
Kossuth, Labelas, Lurue, Marthammor, Mielikki, Milil, Moradin, Mystra, Nephthys, Nobanion, Oghma,
Osiris, Red Knight, Rillifane, Savras, Sharindlar, Shaundakul, Sheela, Shiallia, Siamorphe, Silvanus,
Solonor, Tempus, Thard Harr, Thoth, Torm, Tymora, Tyr, Ubtao, Ulutiu, Urogalan, Valkur, Vergadain,
Waukeen and Yondalla. (Basically, any non-evil deity with at least one of these domains: air, animal,
earth, fire, healing, luck, good, magic, planning, plant, portal, protection, renewal, spell, sun, water.
We'll need all those ingredients for the ritual.)

The delegate to the Church of Helm has also the duty of asking them to banish Iuz to Oerth (this guy
have really nothing to do here, he should rather get back to Greyhawk where his kingdom is being torn
into little piece by followers of various good deities).

The 15 churches already involved (Baervan, Baravar, Callarduran, Chauntea, Flandal, Gaerdal, Garl,
Gond, Lathander, Lliira, Segojan, Sehanine & Selune, Sharess, Sune) respectfully ask the Angels of
helping them.

The effects they hope to have is to raise the people dead during the assault of the Illithids and the
Plane of Shadow, to suppress wild magic and dead magic zones, to remove all evil of all raised
creature, to strengthen the Shield of Toril so that it extends in all contingous and coterminous planes
so that it can be sealed against intrusions, to give the "major positive-dominant" and "strongly
good-aligned" traits to Toril (with all life forms currently present on Toril being adapted to the harmful
side-effect of the major positive-dominant trait), as well as to create a similar shield around the sun,
that should be able to protect itself against further attempts to blot it out, or events like the chaos
wave.

They sincerely hope this will allow Toril to know peace and security at last.

They hope this will protect them against the Elven Fleet of Vengeance of the Elven Fleet of Vengeance,
the Illithid Fleet of Vengeance, the Shadow Fleet of Vengeance, the Bullywug Fleet of Vengeance, and
all other troublesome buggers that could come and continue to disrupt their peace and rebuilding
efforts.

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Lord Talos
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posted December 08, 2001 12:33 AM

But Edena, all creatures from the Plane of Shadow came to the defense of Netherese, hordes of
nightwalkers and nightcrawlers, also many other Shades, some of whom descend from dragons and
outsiders. We had a home plane advantage and with the help of ancient Netherese we should have
been able to put much more resistance than Ilithids, and even defeated, Plane Of Shadow is
extremelly vast so it is an easy place to hide.

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Lord Talos
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posted December 08, 2001 12:46 AM

I assume that there is another peace conference. Can the representant from Shadow Plane appear?
And all forces of evil in the multiverse should be VERY angry because of Alosius ritual, I assume such
a great positive energy wave could be felt painfully be the inhabitants of Lower Planes and especially
on the Plane of Shadow, now evil is unbalanced compared to good on Toril.

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posted December 08, 2001 12:48 AM

Ye gods, man, give up. Just accept the ending. It's a good one.

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Gez
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posted December 08, 2001 12:52 AM

Reconstructing Toril, part 2.

The Gnome Rep personally asks Zouron of putting the magical force of his mages to strengthens the
Ritual once it will be (hopefully) started. He tells that he will himself put every wizard, bard and
sorcerer under his command to put their magic power to this end.

He then personally asks Forrester of putting the psionical force of his humanoids to the same aim,
and tells that his own psions and psychic warriors will do the same.

He'll then asks the Illithids, both neo and deep; the Chosen of Mystra and of all non-evil deity, the
sharn and the phaerimm, the dwarves and the elves, every faction with important magical means, both
arcane and divine, is pressed to help that ritual.

Delegates are also sent toward all paladin orders, and all nonevil rangers are contacted also.

Then, on a lightier note, hundreds and hundreds of gnome expert crafters go out of their cities and
their demiplane, and go see the dwarves. They propose their help for forging the medals, after all,
there is about 1 billion heroes that deserve to get a medal !

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Lord Talos
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posted December 08, 2001 12:53 AM

Okay I assume that Shadowlords didn`t manage to gather all their forces in time, but Netherese
Shades who survived the battle were given refugee in other Shade enclaves.

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 08, 2001 12:55 AM

Oh, there were survivors from the City of Shade, Lord Talos.
Not everyone was killed.
But, the force that was brought against the City of Shade was - literally - overwhelming.
Just absolutely overwhelming.

- - -

I have changed my mind.
It is not called the Church of the Sun and Stars.

I am requesting a name for the new, unified Church from ALL of you.

Remember which dieites are in this Church:

Lathander, the Morninglord (The Sun, hope, renewal)
Chauntea, the Earth Mother (The world of Toril)
Selune, the Lady of Stars (One of the creators of Realmspace, the Primordial Light, Promordial Good,
the stars, the heavens at night)
Sune, Our Lady of Love (Love, romance, beauty, beautiful things, beauty as defined in each person's
eyes)
Sharess, Our Succubus of Sensation (Lust, passion, hedonism, excess)
Llirra, Our Lady of Joy (festivals, dancing, merriment)

It is likely that the followers of the Pantheon Gods of the various races whose Portfolios match the
Gods above (such as Hanali Celanil of the elves) will merge with this Church.

The Church opens it's doors (and the ranks of it's clergy) to ALL the races of Realmspace.
I do mean all. That includes kender, humanoids, aboleth, illithid, even the phaerimm (who refuse,
being obsessed with magic), and the sharn.
Even the undead, led by Zouron and by Larloch (who has decided to stick around) are invited to join.

All of the dieties mentioned above are considered EQUAL, in this new Church (including any new ones
that end up joining.)
There is no preference for one or the other, no major religion with a minor one attached.
The dogma of each religion changes, alters, merges with the others, the best parts (depending on
your point of view, I suppose) of each dogma being kept.

The new Church will be the biggest church on Toril, the most powerful, and by FAR the most popular,
while all of the evil faiths decline massively (especially Shar and Cyric.)

Given time, it is quite possible some, if not all, of the dieties in the new church will merge to form a
new diety (who will almost certainly be female.)

Ao does not interfere with what is happening.

- - -

I request you help me with the name of this church.
Aloisius came up with the original idea of combining the churches of Lathander, Chauntea, and Sune,
but I cannot call it the Church of Aloisius!

I need your suggestions. Suggestions for names, anyone?

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 08, 2001 01:03 AM

Ruling:

Yes, Good is gaining the upper hand in Realmspace (if you define the motives of those who have had
the victory as good.)

No, the forces of evil cannot interfere.
This is going to be up to those currently in Realmspace; they must make the final peace.

The phaerimm, acting as Defenders of Realmspace, working with the sharn and Sigilians, just blocked
all access to and from the Crystal Sphere, until the Technocratic Commonwealth dictates otherwise (the
phaerimm now recognize the authority of the Technocracy, as much as is currently possible for them.)

Yes, a new peace council is requested.

This request comes from the Angels of the Seventh Heaven.

They personally approach ALL of those who are leaders, in their hundreds, and they stop right in front
of them, and face them.
Beautiful faces look up at these people and beings, and there are tears in those fathomless eyes, a
mute appeal on the shining visages.

(Yes, look up. In the case of halflings, kender, gnomes, dwarves, and all the other shorter peoples,
the Angels, the Angels of the Seventh Heaven, KNEEL before the person in question.)

A look of supplication, a look of pleading.
There are no threats, no intimidation, no indication that anything will be done if they are refused.
Instead, arms are raised almost as if the Angels were begging, and tears flow down their faces, and
where they sense their plea is being repudiated, the Angels in question bow their heads in grief.

The Angels then turn away, and leave without saying a word, and return to their work to restore Toril's
atmosphere from ruin, and it's Weave and Shadow Weave from wreakage.

- - -

On a side note, I am surprised Forrester missed a certain something in my last long post about two
posts prior to this one (hint, it had something to do with Queen Amlaruil.)

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Gez
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posted December 08, 2001 01:10 AM

Oh yeah. A Shadow Fleet of Vengeance, is that you want ?

I assume that all forces of the Shadow Plane didn't wanted to be screwed by the Angels (see an army
of Solars ? Imagine 100 times as powerful, and you have 1 Angel of edena) just to defend a bunch of
overpowerful petty wizards that weren't smart enough to try to seize power without alienating every
other powers (except the Illithids, who weren't particularly angry at the Shade and their allies, but were
slaughtering them nonetheless as they attacked everyone).

The power of the shadow plane was underestimated in your opinion ? Who cares ? In my opinion,
that's possible, but the power of the Illithid was overestimated. So, in these conditions, the fight would
not have been tougher, it's just that the accent would have been put on battling the shade rather than
on battling the illithids.

Grr.

As for the evil powers -- screw them ! The gods hadn't had their word to say in this matter, it's the
mortals who chose, and they chose Good. Evil is underbalanced now ? Good ridance, it's all that I can
say. Evil can't be balanced, as evil is destruction of everything, including balance. Laws and Chaos
must be balanced to neutral, Good and Evil must be balanced to Good.

Furthermore, the evil powers were already screwed. Their main support, the humanoids, have ceased
to back them since the 7-year war.

If they're angry at the High Rituals organized by Aloïsius, that's too bad for them, but they can't do
anything at all. Ao will prevent them from interfering. Mortal rules, and mortal chose, and they havn't
chosen evil. And furthermore, the Angel will protect us until the Even Bigger Ritual will be performed.


OK, I want to know -- How many people agree to help the Ultimate Ritual ? Logically, everyone, except
the few people actively involved in militant Evil.

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Lord Talos
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posted December 08, 2001 01:21 AM

Representative from the Shadowlords( shadow plane equivalents of Demon Princes, Slaadi Lords, etc.)
together with a one from Netherese Shades arrive in the conference room waiting for everyone to
appear. Netherese archmage argues with the mighty Nightwalker:
Why can`t your masters attack in full force, while our enemies recover?!
YOU FOUL! Don`t you understand that while the inhabitants of Toril are no match for the entire might
of the Shadow, we don`t want a full war with Slaadi and Celestials. But for the sake of the
Truth that lies within Dakness we must stop the influence of the abomination known as the Church of
Sun and Stars!

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 08, 2001 01:21 AM

I regret to say this, Gez, but a repeat of the High Ritual is not possible.

The Five Churches do not have enough power, at the moment, to do it.
And the current situation is too disorganized.

Furthermore, the Weave of Mystra is badly damaged, so even if the Five Churches had the power, the
spell would probably misfire.

So, yes, Realmspace is being guarded by the Phaerimm/Sharn against the Fleet of Shadow.

But no, the High Ritual cannot again restore the dead to life, the world to health, and bring the
wondrous happiness.

At least, not right now ... perhaps in the future, when the Church is truly mighty and the Weave is
healthy, the Church will be able to.

If you want that future to HAPPEN, I SERIOUSLY suggestion you go to the peace table, and hammer
out a PERMANENT peace for Realmspace.

That permanent peace, is within your reach now.
You are almost there; you are a stone's throw away from hammering out a peace that could sustain
Toril for millennia.

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Gez
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posted December 08, 2001 01:23 AM

The Gnomes propose that the new church to be called either the Church of Toril or the Church of
Peace.

All churches of the Gnome pantheon (except, of course, that mindless ball of hatred that is Urdlen)
join it.

The Church of Gond follow the move of the Gnomish Churches.

Edena, how many people (among the NPC) respond favorably to the request for the New Ritual that will
definitely protect Toril against harm and intrusion ?

We've contacted a lots of Churches, and all factions with massive arcane or psionic power. We want
their help. The objective is to shield Toril and its Sun against further attacks and agressions, people
refusing could thus be considered as willing to let further attacks and agressions against Toril happen.

If the High Ritual of Happy Ending is not possible yet, we then coordinate every mystical resource we
can find to repair the weave.

As for Peace, the various factions that I represent -- Gnomes, The One Church, the (resurrected, not
those from Mystara) Maztican elves, even the Yuan-ti -- are all for.

We won't let war strike us again.

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Phasmus
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posted December 08, 2001 01:43 AM

The Deep Illithid and Neoillithid each send triads of delegates to the meeting table... Their forces
around RealmSpace urge the diplomats of the other groups to arrive as soon as they can.

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Lord Talos
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posted December 08, 2001 01:50 AM


quote:

The Gnomes propose that the new church to be called either the Church of Toril or the
Church of Peace.
All churches of the Gnome pantheon



Shadow that resembles a Nihghtwalker stares at Gez with unhumanan hatred:

CHURCH OF TORIL!
SUCH A BLASHEMIES! This so called Church of Toril represents only few soft, weak Gods and their
hedonistic followers, that are unworthy to lead Toril, especially those that follow Sharess, The Queen of
Bitches and Whores.

WE SHADOWS DEMAND:

AND SO WE THE NETHERIL:

NETHERESE ARE TO BE ALLOWED BACK TO TORIL!

THE CORRUPTION OF THE UNDERGROUND RACES MUST BE UNDONE, FOR THE SAKE OF BALANCE! WE
ARE PREPARING A RITUAL THAT WILL COUNTER IT, SO DO NOT INTERFERE!

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Lord Talos
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posted December 08, 2001 01:57 AM

Meanwhile most powerful wizards from the shade enclaves across the Shadow Plane gather together to
cast a True Ritual, invoking a great deal of negative energy.

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Forrester
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posted December 08, 2001 02:05 AM


quote:

Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith:
Victory! Victory!

In the Humanoid lands, Queen Amlaruil and Forrester were fighting back to back.
Now the Queen flushes with delight, turns and grabs Forrester, embraces him in a most
Sharresite way, and offers him a luscious, long, deep, kiss.

While around them a great crowd of humanoids and elves sing, and roar, and blow
trumpets, and beat on great drums.

Victory! Victory! VICTORY!


(I just saw this now, Edena . . . trust me, I can't miss something like that on the first pass.)

Elf kisses?! Icky! You know, I've got a reputation to uphold, here!

Oh, hell with it. Purely in the interest of World Peace . . .

I'll kiss back.


Forrester
Peacemaker

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posted December 08, 2001 02:06 AM


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TheBalor
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posted December 08, 2001 02:08 AM


quote:

Originally posted by Lord Talos:
Meanwhile most powerful wizards from the shade enclaves across the Shadow Plane
gather together to cast a True Ritual, invoking a great deal of negative energy.

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Edena, would it be possible for me to do a suicide pocket-nuke drop into the middle of their high
ritual? (something such as teleporting into their chambers and setting off the bomb) Or are there any
left over from the elder brain assult?

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Forrester
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posted December 08, 2001 02:13 AM


quote:

Originally posted by Gez:
The Gnomes propose that the new church to be called either the Church of Toril or the
Church of Peace.

...

We won't let war strike us again.



My vote is for the Church of Toril. Simple, but very, very direct. I like.

Has disturbing thought about what half-elf half-humanoid kids might look like. Not that bad, actually. Blocks
further consideration from his mind. What the hell am I thinking?

Forrester
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Lord Talos
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posted December 08, 2001 02:13 AM

What happened with the Drow! And did all Ilithid souls `went to their Gods? Shadows try to convince
some of them to allow themselves to be ressecuracted as Shades.

And I don`t see Shar not being a popular deity, as we are after the terrible war and she has a
portfolios of forgetfullness and loss, not to mention Mask, who also resides in the Shadow Plane and
chaos is a good time for thieves.

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Gez
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posted December 08, 2001 02:13 AM

For the Last Peace Conference (if it succeeds, it will be the Last Peace Conference, as war will no longer
be possible. If it fails, it will be the Last Peace Conference as Toril will be destroyed once and for all.),
the Church of Peace will not use threats to make force people to agree to peace.

We won't unleash doomsday weapons of people that does not want peace.

If someone don't want peace, it can only be because this person is evil.

In this case, we'll put Helms of Opposite Alignment on that person's head until our paladins can
confirm that person is no longer evil.

Then, given that the person is no longer evil, said person will make everything possible for peace,
notably agreeing with us.

The One Church of Peace is favorable to an united world government builded on democratic principles
and advocating freedom, knowledge, and respect for life, sentience, and others.

The One Church thinks that the Technocratic Commonwealth could be a base, or a component for that
government.

The One Church don't care much for the internal working and constitution of said government, as long
as what they see as the principles of goodness -- freedom, respect for life, for sentience, and for
knowledge -- are upheld by the government.

The Gnomes, who are part of the Commonwealth, declare that they can accept the commonwealth
becomes the all-encompassing government, as well as they can accept that it becomes parts of a
greater entity. As long as peace, democracy, prosperity and goodness toward all things under the sun
are respected by the world government and all its constituant, they are pleased and agree.

The yuan-ti, if they are invited, are for peace also. Peasssse is good for businesssss. War alsssssso,
but peassssse isss better. And not thissss kind of war.

On the trial of the illithid topic, I don't see much how it can defend itself. It is the sole survivor of its
kin, but it's a powerful enemy if it were to attack us again, seeing as it's evil it will (especially if it gains
the 10 billions XPs, argh) and a too big risk to take. People should vote for death or redemption
(removing all evil from one should be far easier than removing all evil from all illithids and aboleths,
so the weave could support that spell).

People should vote for either case. Both the One Church and the Gnomes will reject all pleas for
acquitting or exiling the illithids without removing all evil from it.


They claim that the threat of this illithid corrupting the neo and deep illithid back to the evil ways of
Ilsensine is too high to be taken.

The threat of that illithid going through the planes looking for other illithids is also too high to be
taken.

In their opinion, a risk with a probability of 1 on 10 billions is too high to be taken, as Toril should
never again be inflicted what it was inflicted. Toril deserves, Toril has gained the right to Serenity.

On a side note, a Solar from the One Church calmy declare than the Shadowlords fail to see that in
Darkness there is no Shadow. Shadow exists only in the Light, as it exist by contrasting with Light. The
One Church wish no harm to the Plane of Shadow, and is of no threat against them. The One Church
don't want to, don't need to, and don't understand the point in, destroying the Plane of Shadow or
otherwise attacking it; unless said Plane of Chaos threatens the Peace and Unity that Toril is getting at
last.

Nothing in what is planned for Toril by the Once Church and its allies is dangerous for or incompatible
with the interest of the Plane of Shadow.

The One Church don't want war. The One Church is tired of war. All of Toril is tired of war. Please, do
not try to wage war against us. We ask you not to, not out of fear, but out of loss of patience. If war is
needed, once more, we will won. But we really, really, really, really, REALLY don't want any new
war.

We're not afraid. Just bored. Really bored.

The One Church hopes the Shadowlord have perfectly understood what this mean.

Otherwise, we've about 400 pretty magical helms for you. If you want war, we'll ask you to try them
until you find one that suit you perfectly.

OOC: Statistically, around 20 helms are enough, as a '1' is always a failure.

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Lord Talos
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posted December 08, 2001 02:22 AM

I REPEAT: Shadowlords don`t want to conquer Toril! We want only the balance between light and
darkness to be preserved, the main effect of our rituaL will be the countering of the alignment switch
that occured because of Alosius`s ritual. Actually it will be the direct opposite of it, and we likely receive
help from not only the clergy of Shar and Mask but also some other evil Gods like Bane or Velshaaron.

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Gez
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posted December 08, 2001 02:37 AM

Edena, mail incoming.

Edena, mail incoming (post scriptum).

Please don't reply to the univ-mtp2.etc. adress.

The One Church, the Church of Toril, the Church of Peace declares that the Shadowlords are interlopers
on Toril and have no legitimity in the saying of what Toril needs for balance.

The Church of Toril declares than an undo of the High Ritual would cause the war to erupt again, and
must not happen.

The Church of Toril asks the Shadowlords to bother of their own problems, not of those of Toril, that
would be very polite and much appreciated.

The Church of Toril points out to the Deep Illithids that such an event would turn them to evil again,
and that they will lose all that they have gained, and they have gained much. The deep Illithids have
the best interest of the world in preventing such an abomination to happen.

The Church of Toril points out to everyone involved in the war that if the Aboleths and Illithids were to
be corrupted again to evil, because some people thinks it makes Toril more "balanced" from their
interloper's point of view, war would risk to erupt again.

It is thus in the interest of everyone on Toril to prevent the abomination of the Ritual planned by the
Shadowlords.

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Reprisal
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posted December 08, 2001 02:48 AM

((I may have some of the specifics wrong during what I am about to write. Please bear with me in this
way, as I'm tired and a bit under the weather, hehe.))

Ever since the end of the titanic war that threatened to detroy all life on Toril, the Prime Minister of the
Technocratic Commonwealth has remained silent after assigning two new members to his government
in the form of a Minister of Redevelopment and promoted his aide, Erika Lesage, to the position of
Deputy Prime Minister. After contacting all those involved in the great battles of the past few days and
speaking with them, he retired to Commonwealth House, his home in the capital city. A few days later,
word comes that the Prime Minister will call a session of Parliament and invite the world media for an
address he's been planning since the end of the fighting.

Days pass, without a word. There are rumours of a powerful white light emanating from the master
bedroom windows at Commonwealth House at dawn, three nights before the planned address. There is
much speculation, but each and every member of government and civic official is not saying a word.

The Commonwealth's new Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Redevelopment continue to do their
jobs in silence. Finally, the day arrives and all the Members are gathered in the Commonwealth
Parliament awaiting Ian Payne's address. Everyone, the Members, the Cabinet Ministers and the
Media, wait and watch the doors leading to the Prime Minister's office connected to the Commonwealth
Chamber.

After what seems to be too long, the doors are opened by two Secret Servicemen and the lightbulbs
erupt as Erika Lesage, not Ian Payne, enters and walks silently toward the podium. It is so quiet in the
Commonwealth Chamber that the sound of her shoes on the marble floors can be heard at the very
back of the great hall. She stops at the podium and puts an envelope down on the podium. She
exhales quietly to herself and regards the audience before speaking:

"People of the Commonwealth, I bring word that our first, and longest serving Prime Minister, Ian
Payne, has died."

Be it shock, or something else, the rooms falls as silent as it was... Erika wipes a single tear from her
cheek before continuing.

"He died three days ago, at dawn, peacefully and in his sleep. When we arrived to see what had
happened, we found nothing..." Erika then picks up the envelope and shows it to everyone, "Save this
letter with instructions that it was to be opened and read by myself at this conference."

Erika Lesage opens the letter and begins to read it aloud.

My Dearest People of the Commonwealth,

I find my hands trembling as I sit at the my desk overlooking our precious capital city and write these
words. I do not believe I possess the ability to accurately convey the love I have for this nation, and
its people, but I will try. I have been your elected leader, on and off, for over forty years now and I
have learned that only through honour and care can one truly govern responsibly. I have faith in these
walls, in this foundation, and in these people who live around me. We are a strong and valiant people.
A people who have stood for the virtues of equality, liberty and democracy. We have changed the
world, and everything in and on it. I only hope that time will look back on us, on me, in such a
favourable light as I have hoped for so long.

"I have lived for nearly seventy-two years, and only now, do I fully understand the obligation every
sapient being must recognize. We may look different, you and I, but in the end, we are one. No
matter the city, no matter the country, no matter the race, class or kin, we are one. We are the
defenders of Toril, and we must act in such a way that will guarantee that the world continue to exist,
in all its glory, no matter the cost.

"I learned this on the day that I discovered my power. For so long I had convinced myself that I was
merely an old man with no power to speak of, but I was wrong. Power does not come from a textbook,
or from science, or from arcane knowledge from beyond the veil. True power, comes from within the
heart, mind and soul. I learned this when I knealt before the shrine and prayed to the Gods and
Goddesses, and was given the gift of freedom when I was embraced by one of the Angels Ascendant.

"My work on this world is finished, and I am tired. I look forward to the rest I have earned in the
afterlife, but know this: I am not defeated. I was given the power to control my life, to choose - "

Erika stops in mid-sentence, where she wipes away another tear and smiles lightly.

"To choose when my stay on this wondrous world ends. It was the most beautiful gift anyone had ever
given me, and now, I embark on the journey no one need fear. If one truly has love in their heart,
mind and soul, there needn't be worry for the next life for it will be truly divine. Remember this, and
the world shall be better for it.

"In my absence, I leave my - " Erika pauses and squints at the page, almost in disbelief, she
continues, "My trusted aide, almost my own daughter, Erika Lesage, in charge until time deems it
possible to hold a general election. I have the full support of my party (the Liberal-Democratic Party)
and its leaders in this action and tell you all that she know speaks for the Commonwealth. I must
know assure you that she is -"

Another pause, this time, Erika finally breaks out into tears. One of the Secret Servicemen, with a
worried look on his face, steps forward and puts his hand on her shoulder, he gives her a hankerchief.
She takes it and thanks him as she wipes her tears away, after looking out to the crowd of people, she
continues reading.

"She is the single most capable person to handle the trials and tribulations ahead. Put the trust you
had in me with her, as she will need it.

"People of the Commonwealth, of the world, this is my final act of office:

"The world has seen far too much war, too much death, too much hate, in these past forty years. Far
more than enough to fill an eternity. I have contacted the other world leaders, our allies, and they
have pledged to hear this call. I propose that all the nations of the world come together in an act of
peace and harmony and communication in the form of The World Council Organization.

"It is my belief that if the world had a place for all voices to come together and communicate, further
world-threatening crises would be averted. It is my desire, my wish, my hope that the world will hear
my call and heed the necessity for the creation of such a world forum. The life of the planet, the life of
its people, depend upon it.

"I leave you know as I have never left you before. I am complete. My story is finished, but I sense
that yours, and the story of the very world, has many, many years to continue before the end comes.
May it be a pleasant ending, one without war, without pain, without death, without hate. May it be one
with joy, with life, and with love. This my wish for the world, and I leave it in your able hands to make it
a reality for all to benefit.

"Signed,

"Ian Payne, Prime Minister of the Technocratic Commonwealth of Toril."

The Commonwealth Chamber remains silent as the acting Prime Minister, Erika Lesage covers her
mouth and lets out a cry. She soon gains her composure, and regards the audience once more. She
quietly leans toward the microphone once more and says, "Thank you, my people."

She walks silently back toward the door she entered, her footsteps once more being heard. As she
gets to the threshold, she stops and leans against the wall. Suddenly, a single pair of hands can be
heard clapping together, then another, and another... Soon, the entire Commonwealth Chamber and
all those citizens gathered outside the Parliament can be heard clapping their hands and standing. A
great cheer is heard as they all begin singing the national anthem, "The Battle Hymm of the
Commonwealth."

The acting Prime Minister lets out a beautiful smile and gives a single wave. Flashbulbs erupt, and the
Chamber lets out a collective roar as their new leader leaves the stage.

((Whew.))

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Lord Talos
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Member # 5533
posted December 08, 2001 03:25 AM

Edena I need to know are Red Wizards still a significant power on Toril? What about Zhentarim and
Church of Bane, are they going to watch calmly as so called "Church of Toril" is going to become the
overwhemingly dominate religion?

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Gez
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Member # 444
posted December 08, 2001 03:39 AM

The Church of Toril is currently strong of the followers of FOUR greater powers, SIX intermediate
powers, two lesser powers and 1 demipower.

The whole seldarine is expected to join, after the church of Sehanine merged with the Church of
Selûne, and thus merged with the One Church. Eilistraee is expected also. This would give two new
greater powers, seven new intermediates, two new lessers and one new demi.

The halfling churches is also very likely to join, and would bring the Church of Tymora with them

The churches of Eldath, Lurue, Mielikki, Milil, Mystra, Shiallia and Silvanus will logically join as well. The
little churches of Ubtao and Ulutiu may, also.

This would makes the Church of Toril encompass the deities of Toril itself (Chauntea), the Moon, and
the Sun; and would make it strong of 10 greater powers, 17 intermediates, seven lesser and 6 demi.

As the Ritual can not be performed yet, our delegates to the other churches enjoin them to join the
Church of Toril, using the current crave of peace and unity, the need for reconstruction, and their fame
and good reputation for the massive achievement they already have made. With your help, they say,
if you join, we'll be able to redo this miracle to protect Toril definetly from harm. Join us, united we are
strong, united we will rebuild the world. They insist that all faiths are venerated as equal, irregardless
of the status of the deity.

The Church of Toril works on rebuilding the Weave, and thus Mystra should be one of the first to join.

We don't say it, but it can be guessed by looking at the people, that the Church who do not join risks
to be forgotten, as the new Church of Toril gets much of the attention and credits. We represent
healing, we represent renewal and rebuilding, we represent hope, we represent the epic deed we have
done for Toril, and for all of these reasons we'll probably become the Church followed by 98% of
worshippers.

The Gnome Rep contacts Erika to see if the Church of Toril, Peace and Unity cannot become the official
church of the commonwealth. He also ask her what's her favorite name for this church. And with that, a
forest gnome cleric of the Church of Toril bless her.

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Reprisal
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Member # 2368
posted December 08, 2001 03:52 AM

Erika thanks the gnomish representative and suggests the Church name be "The United Church of
Toril." She calls it simple, elegant, and powerful.

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Lord Talos
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Member # 5533
posted December 08, 2001 04:05 AM

First of all Deep Illithids and Aboleth are much less powerful than the Pan-Toril Alliance, and without a
threat you will all become decadent and vulnerable, especially with the influence of The Church of Toril.
And do everyone agree that if elves are allowed to go back to Toril, Shades should be here too, since
they didn`t commit any great crimes against Toril?

On Toril, clergy of Shar, Bane and many lesser deities proceed with the ritual, in cooperation with
Shades in Shadow Plane, it won`t have any effect on the sun but some neutral people might switch to
evil and the good time will come for undeath( some souls full of hatred might return as wraiths etc.)

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Member # 2368
posted December 08, 2001 04:41 AM

((Talos, I'm somewhat confused as to what faction you're actually playing... Could you do me the
favour of detailing who your character is and whom s/he speaks for? Right now, it seems you've yet to
commit to a side other than "the antagonists."))

quote:

First of all Deep Illithids and Aboleth are much less powerful than the Pan-Toril Alliance,
and without a threat you will all become decadent and vulnerable, especially with the
influence of The Church of Toril. And do everyone agree that if elves are allowed to go
back to Toril, Shades should be here too, since they didn`t commint any great crimes
against Toril.


The acting Prime Minister shakes her head at the statement. "So quick to make predictions at a time
when the future is so clouded, so unpredictable. While we are more than willing to allow the Torillian
elves to return to the table, most definately as part of the Commonwealth, but the times of kingdom
and empire is over.

"To my knowledge, the Shades did take part in the assault on our valiant space vessels and
threatened to use their weaponry on the surface... Were not these parties, in fact, guilty of the crime
of conspiracy to commit such great crimes?"

And at that, Erika sits back and awaits the replies of the other great powers with respect to the
deceased's final wishes.

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Gez
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Member # 444
posted December 08, 2001 04:41 AM

Decadent and vulnerable ? If you leave us alone, we'll be invulnerable far before decadence.

When Law and Chaos are balanced, the result is Good. We don't need Evil. Is the Plane of Shadow
balanced between Good and Evil ? No ! It leans toward Evil. So, you don't have any word to say about
balance of Good and Evil.

Evil is weakness. Evil is believing that empty emotions, empty beings are strong. Those that are evil
indulge in power that they ultimely don't understand. Powers that are not theirs. Evil is not a force, it is
a negation of a force. It is nothing. We don't want evil. We don't need evil. Cease this dark sorcery
immediately, or be accused of crime against Toril, and against the peace and reconciliation effort. Evil
is out of the equation. Leave now. Accompany Iuz back to Oerth if you want evil. LEAVE US ALONE !

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Lord Talos
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posted December 08, 2001 04:57 AM

To Reprisal:
I represent powers that rule The Plane of Shadow and creatures of this plane, including almost all
shades leaving there, not only the Netherese, I also represent the churches of Shadow Gods-Shar and
Mask who made alliance with other clergys of evil deities( most notably Bane, since Cyric and Talos
aren`t very reliable) to stop the growing power of The Church OF Toril.

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Gez
Member
Member # 444
posted December 08, 2001 05:08 AM

The Yuan-ti knows that Toril is still full of Evil.

They are there. Derros are there. Duergar are there. Several strange creatures of the Underdark are
there, and most of them are evil. Not all humanoids are parts of the humanoid alliance, and those
that are out -- quaggoth, grimlocks, kuo-toas, siv, sahuagin, etc -- are as evil as always.

And furthermore, the Yuan-Ti are not afraid of decadence.

Quite the opposite.

They would very like people to become decadent.

The would very like the World Government, whatever it is, to become something decadent.

This way, they'll be able to infiltrate it easier, and control it easier.

The Yuan-Ti, masters of psionic and arcane powers, don't want to have to face their old enemies and
concurrent the illithids again.

They prefer the illithids to be parts of a government they'll secretely control.

The Yuan-Ti believe that the peace that was promised before the Shadow began to create problems is
what will be the most profitable thing for them.

The Yuan-Ti laugh at the idea of all evil churches associated together to "defend the greater cause of
evil". Such a behavior is so self-contradictory they laugh until their chest hurt.

What are these so called evil creatures, all friendily working together to a common goal ? It's a joke !
They're not evil, they're dumb.

But well, in the possibility that this happy-bunch of evil-doers full of high morale principles (uhuhuh)
succeed at something that will prevent the Yuan-Ti from acquering the Power over a bunch of decadent
slaves, they will intervene.

The Yuan-Ti send swarms of snakes in the various involved evil churches, to harass the priests and
officiants, and disrupt their efforts.

The Yuan-Ti goes themselves to the "battle". They use their innate Polymorph Self to change high
priest in snails (unable to use V, S or M) components, or their Aversion power (similar to Antipathy) to
make officiants flee from the cermony.

They do everything they can to disrupt the rituals everywhere they can, preferrably without using mortal
powers -- they just seek to stop the ritual, they don't try to kill anyone unless attacked.

The Yuan-Ti claim to do this for peace, if the justice of the Commonwealth ask them why they
performed this act. The Yuan-Ti claim they're afraid that with the Aboleth and Illithids coming back to
the dark side, peace will not be possible. And they claim they really want peace, from all their heart.
And they are sincere. But they don't say why exactly they want peace, if asked. Just general answers
like "it's better for everyone, including us".

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Lord Talos
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posted December 08, 2001 05:22 AM

Clergy of evil deities aligned with Shadows( most LE nd NE, some CE gods) hides in the Plane Of
Shadow, they will planeshift to a distant corner of Faerun at the very climax of ritual, since it must be
finished on Toril. By the way it should have been finished by now, Edena?

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Lord Talos
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Member # 5533
posted December 08, 2001 05:29 AM

I think that followers of evil deities are numerous and have spies almost everywhere so we are likely
to counter all efforts made by these pesky snakes, we also try to explain to them that united Word
Council, under spiritual leadership of The Church Of Toril, means the end for their plans.

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posted December 08, 2001 05:33 AM

We also use some fiends, especially those that answer to Evil Gods, for protection.

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zouron
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Member # 3707
posted December 08, 2001 05:45 AM

*A single creature, perhaps a human skeleton walks into the church, in its hand it holds a small scroll, without
considerations of whatever was being said at the moment in walks up before the delegations, and holds up
the scroll and starts to read from it with a monotone echoing voice.*

Dear Delegation of peace, this is the former member of this group Zouron giving you his final
message. Since you have rescieved this letter, it is clear I am no longer amough you all, though I am
not dead, so do not try to ressurrect me and what not. I ahve travelled to the domain of dread, as I
see this as a fitting personal punishment for my own evil in these matters.
You might suggest I could have stayed here in the negotiations until at least the peace was
established, but I decided against this, for the mere reason that the war have left me a changed man,
and peace is something I am unable to think off. My temporal capture left my soul barren and my
mind filled with hate, for life as well for light.
I would have liked to leave you all with a final gift, thus I forced all the living and the dead of my
people to form scrolls of wishes and whatever else we could come up with, which you can use as you
see fit. This vault are hidden somewhere in my old lands, but I do not know where personally, I have
personally used the strength of my soul and magic to seal and hide it will my sanity still rules, but I
am sure you will all find it.
now I must depart, I am sure you can use what is left of the lands I once ruled, though here is no
people to rule anymore.
Farewell and may your quest be bloody."

*The skeleton offers the scroll to Forrester, the scroll is made from human skin, Zouron's own as a matter of
fact, and while written in magical ink, the skin is filled with blood. The skeleton looks around then speaks*

This is the end of the land of zouron, as the finl citizen I bid you all farewell.

*with these words the skeleton collapses and whatever magical energy it contains is gone.


OOCish: have fun all, it been really fun but this waar was more terror then my character could
handle. So enjoy! (BTW I know it was cheap to speak of a magical hidden vault where untold riches
exist) and yes he did kill or force all his citizen to give up their life to make magical items (or attempt)
and so on, an himself left a mere shadow of his living self. Sorry edena for not getting your
comformation for this though

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Alone is something we all are
only far away voices breaks the silence
whom wish to escape
this labyrinth of loneliness
we fumble our way, but finds nothing
because here are no walls
only the fear's angst
keeps us apart


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Edena_of_Neith
Member
Member # 1235
posted December 08, 2001 06:17 AM

Across at least half of Faerun, and across all of Zakhara, flags fly at half staff.
Ian Payne is regarded as a great hero (I myself thought highly of him OOC) by nearly all the people
in these lands.

People halted what they are doing, even halted in the midst of reconstruction, and they watched or
listened to the speech.
Many were in tears, and many still are.

Several million people arrive in the capital of the Technocratic Commonwealth, to see the body of Ian
Payne laying in state, and as he is taken to his burial site hundreds of thousands of people line the
streets, weeping, throwing flowers, staring sadly.
On the big viewscreens set up, tens of millions of people watch in silence as the funeral ceremony
takes place (overseen by the Church of Toril, not the Church of Kelemvor.)

Ian Payne lived to realize his dream.

The nations of Zakhara applied for admittance into the Technocratic Commonwealth, which they are
now calling the United Commonwealth of Toril.
Those few nations that did not apply for admittance, wish to be allies and friends of the UC.
The envoy of the great empire in the heart of Kara-Tur, has also requested admittance into the UC.
The dwarven nations of Faerun are asking for admittance into the UC.
The gnomish nations do not ask to join, because they wish to continue their experiments, and fear UC
laws would stop them, but they offer alliance with the UC.
The halfling nations of Faerun are asking for admittance into the UC.

In an unprecedented move, the phaerimm and aboleth ask for admittance into the UC.
They request to be granted special status, and to be exempt from the law, as diplomats from another
country would be exempt.
However they, in return, offer their immense power and services in the new job of Protectors of
Realmspace (the Fleet of Shadow, they point out, is only one of many extraplanar threats and
problems.)

The drow who have returned to the world renounce Lolth and the others of the drow Pantheon and
embrace the Seldarine or Eilistraee.
They then ask for admittance into the UC.

The sverfneblin, not wishing to miss out on a good thing, ask to join the UC.

Many of the countries on the other 4 continents of Toril also ask for admittance, if the UC will help
them rebuild their countries.

The queen of the githyanki was killed in the war, but her successor, a wise and noble knight, decides
to revolt against the Lich Queen of the Githyanki.
The githyanki colony on Luna requests to join the UC, in return for protection from it's brethren.

The scro were effectively wiped out as a major force in Realmspace during the war.
However, they maintain a sizeable presence on Selune, and they still rule that moon.
The scro, offer to ally with the UC, but do not offer to join.

Now, there are a number of powers I cannot speak for.
They can choose to join the UC, ally with it, remain neutral, or stand against it.

Bran's Druids.
The Isle of Hope
The Humanoid Alliance (the other great power on Toril.)
Zouron's Magocracy.
The Faerie
The Unseelie
The Deep Illithid
The NeoIllithid

The return of the dragons has caused a revolt in Faerie, and some of the Faerie have returned to Toril
against the wishes of Titania.
Since some of the Unseelie also revolted against their leadership, and returned to Toril, this should be
interesting.

Ian Payne lived to see the sky turn green (it's natural color) again, as the Angels cleared it of debris
from the war.
He lived to see the volcanoes go quiet, the rifts cool off, the oceans calm, the last of the tremors
subside.
He lived to see the sun shining in it's glory out of the green sky, and the great light green halo around
it also return.
The sun itself is still recovering, and plumes of superheated debris are still spewing from it, and all
about it are clouds of gas, which extend outward in streamers and vortexes far into Realmspace.

A reminder to all the people of Toril of the consequences of their war, and a warning against future
war.

When the sky had cleared, and the Weave had healed as much as they could heal it, the Angels came
to Ian Payne, and they had surrounded him (yes, there was an intense light from his room ...)
One of the Angels, ethereal and shining with white and silver light, had walked up to him, and the
Angel had smiled, and reaching out a gossimar hand, touched him on the forehead.
And whispered:

Blessed One.

The other Angels, surrounding Ian Payne in a great circle, had all smiled then, their approval and their
feelings of appreciation a physical blow of warmth and love.

Then the great light had come, again, from the Seventh Heaven, and the Angels had turned, and
walked back up into that light.

(It should not be too difficult to imagine where Ian Payne is now, in the Afterlife.)

His grave will be visited ever by that shining light, and it will become a Holy Place.
People will come there to pray, and a new religion will be created, one that believes in Angels, in Mercy
and Compassion, in Caring.
One day, a great cathedral will stand around his tomb, and still the light will shine on it.

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 08, 2001 06:38 AM

Amlaruil kisses Forrester, long and deeply.
That gesture ignites her people, who laugh and cheer, then dance and sing in celebration.
They whisk the humanoids around them into their dance, and it seems to the humanoids that these
could not possibly be elves - or if they are, they have all gone mad.

Some of the elves start talking about new cities, where elves and humanoids live together.
Others take that up, and talk of the elven ceremonies, and how the humanoids would fit in great.
But then others talk about how the elves would fit in great into the humanoid ceremonies, and they
ask to join the humanoid community!!

The elves seem fascinated with the humanoids, and they offer to help them rebuild, and they offer
(gasp) to live under the rule of the humanoids, if the humanoids will allow them to.
Queen Amlaruil states that she is queen no more, but Forrester's humble servant.
Queen Amlaruil also says that Forrester is a good kisser, which causes a mighty roar and cheer, and
she gives him a very suggestive look.

And a lot of elven females give the orcs, goblins, kobolds, ogres (especially the ogres), suggestive
looks.
A fair number of elven males begin making advances towards humanoid females, too.

But then Queen Amlaruil, who lost Zaor many decades ago, peacefully fades away.
Her task is done, her people are safe, and the curse upon her is lifted, and she fades away to the
realm of Arvandor.

The elves are very sorrowful about the loss of their Queen, who they loved, and now they look to
Forrester, and as incredibly as this may seem, it would appear that they expect him to be their new
King.
Some of the elves are now saying that elves and humanoids are actually kin, and of the same general
race, and that the different kinds of elves and different kinds of humanoids are merely delightful
variations on the general whole.
And elves, like variation.

IMPORTANT: How Forrester and the Humanoids handle this, is crucial.

Of course, the Shamans of Gruumsh look upon all this warily, as one might expect.
The elves do not go so far as to praise Gruumsh, but then again ... they do not attack him or say
anything bad about him, either.

The Seldarine do not interfere, nor do the Gods of the Humanoids.
Both groups of Gods and Goddesses are watching in amazement with their mouths hung wide open, to
be honest.

- - -

Larloch gives his undead slaves their freedom, and they pass away into the Afterlife, and he gives his
liches their freedom, on the condition they behave themselves.
Larloch and most of his liches are very lonely, now, since they became social beings.
Larloch asks if he could be of use.

He explains that he could help with the Defense of Realmspace.
He explains that he understands the ancient Netherese Lore - far better than the Netherese - and he
could establish a College of Wizardry that would beggar even the great colleges of the Magocracy
(although he might have offered this to the Magocracy had Zouron not disappeared.)
He explains that he will not allow the mistakes of the Netherese to be repeated, and he is willing to
swear loyalty to the UC or the Humanoid Alliance, whoever will take him.

Larloch goes to the funeral of Ian Payne, but he assumes the facade of one who is alive, and he is
just another person in the crowd thus.

The Chosen of Mystra do not agree to join their countries to the UC, and they ask for neutrality (think
of Switzerland).
However, Silverymoon is an exception: Silverymoon offers to ally with the UC and to the Humanoid
Alliance both.

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Lord Talos
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Member # 5533
posted December 08, 2001 06:59 AM

So plans of the shades and evil priests to invoke a negative energy weave upon Toril did not suceed?
Will shades be allowed to live on Faerun?
I HATE happy endings.

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 08, 2001 06:59 AM

Ruling:

The Church of Toril, as it calls itself, does absorb Hanali Celanil, and it absorbs some of the other
dieties whose portfolios are in agreement with it's principals (but this takes months to happen, and in
some cases years.)

However, Gond the Wonderbringer is not absorbed, because it was Gond who brought technology to
Toril, or so say the gnomes, and his Church has become huge.
It has become so huge that most gnomes belong to it, and many non-gnomes belong to it.

Eilistraee gains a great following among the drow, who are unfamiliar with the surface as of yet, and so
she becomes a great power.

The Church of Compassion that is founded after the death of Ian Payne sweeps up most of the
followers of several Faerunian Gods, stripping them of their power.
Kelemvor is a big loser, especially since his people did not perform the burial, and since he is seen as
harsh and uncaring.
The followers of Immater also flock to the new church.
Torm the True is another God who loses big, as honesty, keeping the trust, courage, and honor, were
all embodied in Ian Payne, and the Angels of the new Church still light his tomb.

The dark Gods suffer very badly as people eschew them for the Church of Toril, the Church of
Compassion, and the new rising powers such as Eilistraee.
Loviatar is almost wiped out, since there has been all too much pain and suffering (it gets so bad
Loviatar starts thinking of joining with Sharess, and turning to good alignment ...)

Malar the Beastlord loses out totally, his followers either dead in the war, or abandoning him, or
hunted down by people outraged from too much war.
The followers of Cyric perished for the most part in the war, and those that remain are very unpopular,
and a massive attempt is made to convert them.
The Church of Bane remains, but it is drastically weakened, for the common people don't wish tyranny,
and they see in the UC and the Church of Compassion a way to escape tyranny, and Bane's people
can't hold them.
Bane's people are few, because most died in the war, and those that remain are frowned upon as
idiots.
Nobody prays to Umberlee anymore, either.
Auril the Frostmaiden was totally wiped out and no longer exists as a power on Toril.
Tempus still remains, but he is greatly weakened. People are tired of war.

Helm the Watcher does not weaken.
The idea of keeping guard, protecting Realmspace with Guardians, protecting the avenues of approach
from the Planes with Watchers, is big amongst the military and even the common people, and Helm
flourishes amidst the respectful prayers of these people.

The balance of Realmspace shifts heavily towards Good.

- - -

When the phaerimm (and, I am guessing, the sharn) return with reports that the Shadow Fleet is
threatening Toril, demanding this and this be done or else, THERE IS MASSIVE ANGER AND A FIRM
RESOLVE AND UNITY AGAINST THEM.

The Chosen who had asked for neutrality, offer their services to the UC.
More countries from Kara-Tur offer to join or ally with the UC.
More countries from the other 4 continents offer to join the UC unconditionally, or to ally with it.

Even the neutral scro of Selune are infuriated, and although they remember with anger the massacre
of their people by the UC, they offer to ally with them against these extraplanr interlopers.

An argument breaks out amongst the phaerimm.

Some of the phaerimm were not caught in the High Ritual, while many more were.
The phaerimm not caught, remain anti-social as phaerimm always were, but those that were caught,
become social.
The argument ends with some of the phaerimm returning to live in isolation in the Underdark, but the
majority actually start to show up in civilized society, albeit cautiously.

The phaerimm begin to modify their beholder slaves, to make them into beings who can tolerate each
other and other races (currently, that is not possible, if you know beholders!)
The phaerimm are trying to make the race they created into one that can be assimilated into society.
Until they do, they will not release their slaves from slavery; it would be too dangerous to the people
of Toril.

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posted December 08, 2001 07:05 AM

It is not the ending yet, Lord Talos.

The Shades see that the Church of Toril is jumping the gun (about gathering dieties in) and angering
the dieties.

The resolution of the elves and humanoids is yet to be decided: that is up to Forrester.

The scro have not joined the UC; they remember the slaughter of their people in the war.

The clergy of Shar that yet remain on Toril communicate in secret to the Shades, telling them of all
events that are happening.

The clergy of Shar think that the current euphoria and goodwill will not last, and that the final peace
conference can be disrupted and wrecked.
The clergy of Shar believe these weak mortals will again succumb to the temptation to commit violence
against their own, that hatred and predudice will win out, that memories are short and the desire to kill
is forever.

The clergy of Shar also report that the phaerimm/sharn blockade of Realmspace, although powerful
and growing more so, is not so powerful the Fleet of Shade could not penetrate it by force.

However, they report that unleashing a wave of Negative Energy on Realmspace would not be a good
idea: their divinations suggest the Angels might return and stop it, then retaliate against the Shades.

As for whether Shades will be allowed to live in Realmspace, that can be decided in two ways: either by
war or by the peace conference (although the Shades are not invited to it, one of the clergy of Shar IS
(she is not given a choice) so that the Shades have a spokesperson.)

The choice, is yours.

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posted December 08, 2001 07:15 AM

The matter of the trial of the one remaining evil illithid was meant semi-humorously.

Please go ahead and post concerning this.
I am curious as to what you people will decide.

The situation with the Fleet of Shade threatens another war.
Since nobody WANTS another war, you are going to have to make arrangements to deter the Shades,
no?
They are at the peace conference in the form of a young lady who is a priestess of Shar; she will
speak for them.
Speak your will on this matter!

I need to know if the Magocracy and Humanoid Alliance remain independent or join the UC.
I especially need Forrester's reaction to the behavior of the elves as noted in the post above.
(It is only the elves of Evermeet who had been shades who are reacting with such incredible
friendliness; the elves of Evereska remember what happened in the Seven Year War, and they are
wary and cautious, but they are willing to make a lasting peace.)

The Church of Toril will be challenged for supremacy by the Church of Compassion.
Hopefully, it will be a peaceful coexistence.
Hopefully, neither Church will discriminate against the smaller denominations, of Oghma, Eilistraee,
Gond, and the others.

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Lord Talos
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posted December 08, 2001 08:07 AM

Shar and Mask strike down the weakened Cyric, destroying him and taking all his portfolios. Merging
these portfolios with their own the unified Church of Shadow is created, while Shar takes deception and
lies and Mask takes intrigue back, adding illusions, taking him back to intermediate status. . They
invite other non-chaotic evil Gods to join, since only in union they can survive. Talona swtches to NE
and joins The Church, taking the betreyal portfofolio from Gargauth whose other portfolios belong now
to Shar( Gargauth didn`t want to join and was destoyed). Bane, losing almost all followers had no
other choice but to join, becoming an Intermediate Power and losing hatred to Shar. Loviatar joins and
so does Velshaaron. Malar who lost almost all followers promises to become less chaotic and gains
murder portfolio from Cyric. Talos doesn`t join and hopes to survive on his own. Shar becomes the
most powerful single Greater Power, far stronger than Mystra.
The Shadow Church is an unified church, with LE/NE alignment, with single hierarchy, a cleric may
choose one of the Shadow Gods, as a patron, but doesn`t have, power from worship is mostly
distributed based on rank( Shar gets the most).

The Church of Shadow hopes to attract many humanoids and humans, who are either power hungry or
full of hatred, and waits to exploit other weaknesses for they own gains, ambitious politicians, those
who suffered and want retriburion, evil rogues,ambitious mages who dwell in necromancy and shadow
magic. In the land where they not rule they will plot in secrecy to place cultists in the position of power.
They are allied with forces from the Plane Of Shadow, some of them desire transformation into a
Shade.

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Lord Talos
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posted December 08, 2001 08:17 AM

And a plan to use a shadow weave is abandomed.

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posted December 08, 2001 08:18 AM

And a plan to use a shadow/negative energy wave is abandomed(ignore above post).

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Lord Talos
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posted December 08, 2001 08:49 AM

The priestess of Shar, representing the entire Church of the Shadow, sitsnear her allies, a menacing
nightwalker representing Shadowlords and one of the surviving Netherese archmages.

Edena, now the Shadow Gods want to strike weakened Kelemrevor and seize his portfolios, if they
suceed they could equal two other churches in power.

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posted December 08, 2001 09:02 AM

Valkys speaks for the Unseelie Court, since technically, he was granted power by Oberon to see this
through, "The Unseelie will not join the UC. We will not oppose it, and plan to send an ambassador to
maintain diplomatic ties. As I have been appointed leader of the Unseelie here on Toril, I shall do my
utmost to gather the Unseelie who rebelled under my command. My dragon allies also choose not to
join the UC, but will send their own ambassador."

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Gez
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posted December 08, 2001 09:13 AM

>The gnomish nations do not ask to join, because they wish to continue their experiments, and fear UC laws
would stop them, but they offer alliance with the UC.

Grr. I said about 12 times that the gnomes are part of the Commonwealth. Furthermore, my gnomes
being Neutral Good, they won't do any experiments that is contrary to their ideals -- and I really doubt
an experiment that's OK with the NG dogma can be illegal in any way. If we've learned something from
the 7-year war, it is that you don't introduce an innovation until it's perfect enough so that it won't hurt
anyone.

So, the gnomish nation don't ask to join, because they have already joined. A lonjg time ago, it was
on the other thread.

>However, Gond the Wonderbringer is not absorbed, because it was Gond who brought technology to Toril, or
so say the gnomes, and his Church has become huge.
It has become so huge that most gnomes belong to it, and many non-gnomes belong to it.

Grr. I said the churches of the gnomes were joining the Church of Toril. And the Church of Gond also,
because it is a Gnome Church, and because they want the teaching of Gond to be the teaching of Toril.
The Church of Toril is to represent what Toril is, and if technology and craft is important to Toril, the
Church of Gond is important to the Church of Toril.

I'd like to actually play my gnomes. I talk only of things that I personnaly control, the Gnomes and
the Church of Toril; not like Lord Talos who decide what happens about all the evil deities, including
portfolio and alignment change (forgetting, by the way, that the deity can't intervene in anything; only
their churches and clerics).

Angry Gez

Post-Scriptum: The Church of Toril give full protection to the Church of Kelemvor. Kelemvor is a
non-evil god of protection, and his teaching are so respected and venered by the Church of Toril. We
asks the threatened Church of Kelemvor to join the One Church of Toril. By the way, we also ask the
Church of Compassion to join the Church of Toril, because we do value and worship compassion as well
as protection, justice, freedom, renewal, knowledge, life, joy, and hope.

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Lord Talos
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posted December 08, 2001 09:16 AM

I made a mistake in one of above posts, Church OF Shadow is NE/LE, sorry for confusion.

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posted December 08, 2001 09:31 AM


quote:

Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith:
Amlaruil kisses Forrester, long and deeply.
That gesture ignites her people, who laugh and cheer, then dance and sing in
celebration.
They whisk the humanoids around them into their dance, and it seems to the
humanoids that these could not possibly be elves - or if they are, they have all gone
mad.

Some of the elves start talking about new cities, where elves and humanoids live
together.
Others take that up, and talk of the elven ceremonies, and how the humanoids would
fit in great.
But then others talk about how the elves would fit in great into the humanoid
ceremonies, and they ask to join the humanoid community!!

IMPORTANT: How Forrester and the Humanoids handle this, is crucial.

Of course, the Shamans of Gruumsh look upon all this warily, as one might expect.
The elves do not go so far as to praise Gruumsh, but then again ... they do not attack
him or say anything bad about him, either.


Heh heh heh. Millions of defenseless easily-surprised elves in Humanoid-land. How else can I handle
it?

We invite them to dinner.

. . . and afterwards, we invite them to join us, and live among us, as equals. The fighting has gone on
for too long . . . FAR too long. They fought with us against their own kind, in order to save our lives.
The time is long since past to bury the hatchet.

And it goes without saying, the Humanoid Alliance would like to become full members in the
Commonwealth.


Forrester
Peacemaker

[Back this evening . . . ]


EDIT: The Church of Gruumsh matters litle to us at this point. As I noted previously, we have been
slipping away from worshipping gods, instead turning inward to worship the study of psionics and
technology. Our society, before this war, was mostly secular in nature. While this assimilation may not
be easy for some of my people, religious differences are not going to be a big part of the problem.

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Lord Talos
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posted December 08, 2001 09:47 AM

What about the conference?

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Gez
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posted December 08, 2001 09:52 AM

Who's the DM, here ? Edena or Talos ?

Shar and Mask strike down the weakened Cyric, destroying him and taking all his portfolios.
If Edena says so.
Merging these portfolios with their own the unified Church of Shadow is created, while Shar takes deception
and lies and Mask takes intrigue back, adding illusions, taking him back to intermediate status.
If Edena says so.
They invite other non-chaotic evil Gods to join, since only in union they can survive.
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha !!! The sacred union of evil is just to ridiculous ! Evil is not about helping
other or strength through unity. Hey, that's a good behavior. If there are evil, they won't join or ally
themselves. They'll all hope they'll be the sole survivor evil god.
Talona switches to NE
If Edena says so.
and joins The Church,
If Edena says so.
taking the betreyal portfofolio from Gargauth whose other portfolios belong now to Shar
She tests her new betrayal portfolio by killing Shar. Bwahahah. She then begin to ally with and betray
all other evil powers, until one, bored, send her to Greyhawk where she's slain by Wastri the Hoping
Prophet, god of Bullywugs. If Edena says so, of course.
(Gargauth didn't wanted to join and was destroyed).
If Edena says so.
Bane, losing almost all followers had no other choice but to join, becoming an Intermediate Power and losing
hatred to Shar.
If Edena says so. Bane, as a deity of hatred and tyranny, would gladly die rather than becoming the
underling of anyone. He would just hate those trying to command him (the greatest blasphemy he can
conceive is to give orders to him), and if he join an united church, it would be only as the leader of
said church. Which would be soon after renammed Church of Bane.
Loviatar joins
Last time Edena talked about Loviatar, she was considering switching to Good and joining Sharess in
the One Church. She could get the portfolio of exotic sexual practice and unordothox fantasms. Not
all-encompassing, sure.
and so does Velsharoon. Malar who lost almost all followers promises to become less chaotic
If Edena says so.
and gains murder portfolio from Cyric.
If Edena says so.
Talos doesn't join and hopes to survive on his own.
Who else find that funny ? (OOC)
Shar becomes the most powerful single Greater Power, far stronger than Mystra.
Except Shar was no more a Greater Power since she lost all humanoid followers after the 7-Year war.
She probably lose yet other when the Netherese betrayed Toril (and were humiliated). And she
probably will lose even more as secrets are not very popular these times (with the Phaerimm and
Illithids sharing their lore with the UC, the time is not for secrecy anymore).

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Gez
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posted December 08, 2001 10:41 AM

The Yuan-Ti, who know better than others, remain quiet. In case of conflict against anyone that
threatens the peace and unity of Toril, they'll jump in.

They want to show to everyone their good intents.

Items that protects against alignment detection becomes popular among the Yuan-Ti.

Their aim is to do everything they could reasonnably do to have an united nation and an united
church.

So they have to place paws and spies in less organizations than before.

Between them, they laugh heartily about the lack of subtilities of the so-called Church of Shadow, and
they praise Sseth, their god, who inspired them the true virtues one should have - patience,
insidiousness, long-lasting ambition, and how to make convincing lies and half-truths.

Meanwhile, they'll also reinforce the spy network in the Church of Shadow, in the case it's successful at
something.

They also have already, of course, spies and paws in the Church of Toril and the UC.

The Yuan-Ti swear that they'll put all their strength behind the United Commonwealth (as long as it
has the upper hand, at least), and that the Government of Toril will never have to reproach anything
on the Yuan-Ti (but they say nothing about the citizens of that government, nor about who exactly will
be that government).

They see the Church of Shadow as idiots. They think that internal strife will kill that church quickly, as
each high cleric of this bunch of people valuing pettiness, hatred, ambition, betrayal and strife will want
to be the leader of the church.

OOC: The above is based on my reflexions on what would makes a true Evil villain in such a
circumstance. To sum up, if you are a lone wolf, and there is a big war between a pack of wolves that
want to destroy the world/or kill everyone/or loot everything, and the United Sheep's Alliance, what
side will you join ? The wolves, because you' one ? No, that's silly. You'll join the sheep. So you'll be
accepted, maybe even trusted, among them, and you'll have all the sheeps for you to eat. Enough
sheeps for the rest of your life ! If you join the wolves, however, you'll have to share the sheeps with
them, and you'll end up assassinated either by an ambitious, lower-ranked wolf, or by a
precautionous, higher-ranked wolf.

The Yuan-Ti want to be the only wolf of the sheepfold, and their ambitions are mostly greed and
hunger for power. Behind the scene, everything, of course. They don't want the Torilian to know they
are their true masters, and they don't want the Torilian to know they are evil.

[ December 08, 2001: Message edited by: Gez ]


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Forrester
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posted December 08, 2001 11:14 AM


quote:

Originally posted by zouron:

*The skeleton offers the scroll to Forrester, the scroll is made from human skin,
Zouron's own as a matter of fact, and while written in magical ink, the skin is filled
with blood. The skeleton looks around then speaks*

This is the end of the land of zouron, as the final citizen I bid you all farewell.

*with these words the skeleton collapses and whatever magical energy it contains is
gone.


I am sorry that the War left you this way . . .

Edena, we shall certainly send a team of our best men and women to Zouron's plane, in order to
search for the secrets buried therein. As a gesture of goodwill towards our new elven friends (I still
can't believe I'm saying that . . . ), we invite some of their mages to come along with us. They are
certainly superior to us in magery, and their assistance will prove useful.

Forrester
Peacemaker

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Lord Talos
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posted December 08, 2001 11:38 AM

Okay, sorry, maybe I was too hasty. I assume that as I already control Shades and the Plane Of
Shadow I can at least control Shar and Mask, especially that one guy before controlled AO. Shar`s plan
is in this infamous post above, under assumption that Shar was the only evil God not really that much
weakened after the war, for she is worshipped by many Shades not only The Netherese. Anyway Edena,
it doesn`t matter how many faiths join the Church of Shadow, Shar`s clergy is the core, but Shar is
negotiating from the position of power.

And it seem that our friend Gez cannot understand the concept of unified pantheon, and the fact that
evil may cooperate for its own good.

And I think that the point was about the deities do not interferring directly into mortal affairs.

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Gez
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posted December 08, 2001 12:07 PM


quote:

Originally posted by Lord Talos:
Okay, sorry, maybe I was a bit hasty. I assume that as I already control Shades and
the Plane Of Shadow I can at least control Shar and Mask,


You can't control Shar and Mask. You can maybe control the churches of Shar and Mask, but you don't
control the deities themselves. They are not allowed from intervening in this matter.

You'll note that I havn't claimed to control Sseth of the Yuan-Ti, or any gnome god, or Lathander and
co. Only their churches and proeminant followers.

quote:

Originally posted by Lord Talos:
especially that one guy before controlled AO



Ao is a special case. First, he didn't really intervene, just made some not-so helpful comments, then
he is the one that prevents the gods from interfering during these wars and negociations.

quote:

Originally posted by Lord Talos:
Shar`s plan is in this infamous post above, under assumption that Shar was the only
evil God not really that much weakened after the war, for she is worshipped by many
Shades not only The Netherese. Anyway Edena, it doesn`t matter how many faiths join
the Church of Shadow, Shar`s clergy is the core, but Shar is negotiating from the
position of power.


Shar can plan as much as she wants, she can do nothing as long as the story is not finished. Sorry.

quote:

Originally posted by Lord Talos:
And it seem that our friend Gez cannot understand the concept of unified pantheon,



I do.

quote:

Originally posted by Lord Talos:
and the fact that evil may cooperate for its own good.


Indeed, that, I don't. Good may associate for its own good, but evil would only associate for its own
evil. Otherwise, it would not be evil.

Being evil is not like playing the red in a chess game. It's not acting like the good guys but dressing in
black and laughing madly for no real reasons. Being evil is being selfish, petty, and utterly
self-destructing; it's a well-known point.

Evil powers are not united toward a greater cause. If they were, they would be no blood war among the
fiends.

How can people that are the epitome of hatred wants to help others ? How can people that are the
incarnation of strife wants to ally with others ? How can people that are the avatar of tyranny can wants
to follow the orders of others ? How can people that represents betrayal can wants to be a loyal friend
of others ? And so on.

The Church of Toril is united because it shares several values, and because respect for everyone is
among them.

But evil deities don't share any value, their only common point is their evilness, and that's not a
rallying motto. That's why I used the Illithids to show how I think evil people would react.

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Lord Talos
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posted December 08, 2001 12:10 PM

And clerics of diffrent deities would join the Cult Of Shadow because together they can possess more
power, they may even hope to conquer the world, and since this church is LE/NE there would be less
infighting than between Drow.

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Lord Talos
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posted December 08, 2001 12:18 PM

And evil deities will cooperate, at least temporary, when one of them is " da boss'.

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Lord Talos
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posted December 08, 2001 12:49 PM

And my assumptions were taken from Edena`s above posts that indicate weaknesses of the churches
of Bane, Cyric, Malar etc.
Edena Church of Shadow(its activities are secret, by the way), on its core consisting of worshippers of
Shar and to a lesser extent of Mask, will try to convert as many worshippers of another evil deities as
possible if Shar doesn`t seem to exploit the weaknesses of the deities themselves.

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Lord Talos
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posted December 08, 2001 12:49 PM

And my assumptions were taken from Edena`s above posts that indicate weaknesses of the churches
of Bane, Cyric, Malar etc.
Edena Church of Shadow(its activities are secret, by the way), on its core consisting of worshippers of
Shar and to a lesser extent of Mask, will try to convert as many worshippers of another evil deities as
possible if Shar doesn`t seem to exploit the weaknesses of the deities themselves.

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Lord Talos
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posted December 08, 2001 01:10 PM

Since I am leaving for a day and won`t have an access to computer I urge Edena to take control of
both Church of Shadow and Shades. Church will try to negotiate a permission for the Shades to return
into Toril, they also experiment about how easy it is to convert poor victims of Alosius`s brainwashing
back to evil( and then of course try to make them worship Shar). Also The Church would offer a
wondrous possibility of becoming a shade to an every willing being on Faerun. Also an army of Shadow
would like to assault Toril, however they are wary of angels protection and don`t want a war with them.
Clergy of Shar and Netherese Shades are able to convince them to leave Realmspace.

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Reprisal
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posted December 08, 2001 02:31 PM

The Prime Minister smiles and regards the television cameras and holographic imagers before her
before stating:

"The Techno - um, The United Commonwealth of Toril will accept any and all of those who will pledge
to live their lives by the laws of our great nation. We freely accept those gnomish and dwarven
enclaves that had not previously joined our confederacy, as well as our long-time brothers-in-arms, the
Humanoid Alliance."

She stops for a moment, deep in thought.

"Ian would never have dreamed such a staggering amount of world unity. His dream was the
establishment of a world forum, and here we are building a world community. I would not have
believed it months ago, but here it is, in our hands: the fate of Toril is truly in our hands. May we
defend our world to the best of our abilities, all of us, on every level."

"Thank you."

Upon returning to her office, Erika Lesage finds an envelope on her desk with the words "Top Secret"
and "Commonwealth Intelligence Service" imprinted upon them. She opens the envelope and begins
to read.

Prime Minister,

Our most recent planar intelligence reports a massive build-up of military assets on the Plane Of
Shadow by the remnants of the Netherese and their allies. We expect an attack imminent, perhaps
within the next week or so... I urge yourself and the government to warn our allies and countrymen
of the attack and do what you can to avert the invasion.

"It is our belief that the Netherese could be dissuaded through non-violent means, but we've nary a
clue how to go about that option. I've put my best operatives on the job, but it's a long shot. I leave
you with the hope that you and the world can pull another miracle out of Toril's collective hat and
avert yet another war of catastrophic proportions.

"Signed,
"James McAlister, Assistant-Director of Planar Operations, CIS."

The Prime Minister sighs in annoyance, if nothing else, and activates her communicator. "Barinor? Can
you get me the Commonwealth Marshalls, the Privy Council members, and the following world leaders
on the line? I'm sending the list now over the wire."

"Received, ma'am. What message should I send?"

"Tell them the Netherese have decided to crash the party, yet again."

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Riot Gear
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posted December 08, 2001 02:44 PM

Anabstercorian, the last Mind Flayer, broods in his cell. The vast amount of experience he gained from
Armegaddon is sinking in, and he is currently easily 25th level. However, he has been thinking...

And he wants to KEEP thinking. He does not wish to die. Toril has become something spectacular and
incredible, something he wants to be a part of.

Also, he needs to survive to write a book of Illithid history. This isn't optional for him. He refuses to
allow his culture to be forgotten, discarded by those of Good alignment who would rather see it burned
away forever.

He offers his services to the UTC as an adviser and special agent.

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I love maces, I really do. That crunch noise is just SO satisfying, and the flying shards of bloody bone
- Well, that's just icing on the cake.


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Riot Gear
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posted December 08, 2001 02:48 PM


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zouron
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posted December 08, 2001 03:07 PM

oocish

well seems to never end though edena, there is no mageocracy, unless someone else starts a new...
all the people are dead, undead form destroyed and so on. not that I think there is much left after the
war in general.
I didn't plan to post here again, and since the kingdom was purely fictional and created by me, I
thought it best to let it sink as well with me. Well it was one of the reasons. So the mageocracy, is
neither positive or negative or neutral towards any UC, because it is not alvie anymore.

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Alone is something we all are
only far away voices breaks the silence
whom wish to escape
this labyrinth of loneliness
we fumble our way, but finds nothing
because here are no walls
only the fear's angst
keeps us apart


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Phasmus
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Member # 2639
posted December 08, 2001 04:15 PM

The Deep Illithid return to their underdark cities and begin a massive cultural reconstruction procedure.
They do not mix as freely with the other races as the Neoillithid, though they seem happy to share
their wealth of knowledge with any who care to delve into the deeps and ask for it. They lobby for
admittance into the UC.

It is rumored that the Deep Illithid are attempting to create a new, good, elder-brain, though they
seem reluctant to comment on the subject.


The Neoillithid have no official governing body of their own (though they all seem to know what their
race as a whole wants to accomplish at any given time). As before, they integrate themselves into
whatever societies will accept them, and do their best to be helpful and productive. The Neoillithid
seem to have developed a much greater interest in politics than before the great conflict, and are
found running for office when possible in the UC and other governments.


Both the Neoillithid and the Deep Illithid request clemency for Anabstercorian. They state that killing
him, when he seems to have no intent of being a threat, would be an unjustified act of vengeance.
Though they indicate that it would be prudent to keep a close eye on him... always.

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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 08, 2001 07:28 PM

Shar is not stronger than Selune, but weaker: much weaker, because of recent events.
The clergy of Mask join the clergy of Shar.
The clergy of Cyric join them both.

The Church of Shadow is created.

Darkness and loss, entropy and destruction.
Lies and deception, dark illusion and evil intrigue.
Madness.

Yes, they unite in unison, despite their evil natures.
They unite because these worshippers of the Dark see that the Light is triumphant around them, and
only in unity can they survive.
It is a tenuous unity.

The followers of Talona ally with this church, but do not join.

Gargauth's followers fight against the effort to assimilate them into the Church of Shadow, leading to a
short war that destroys the followers of Gargauth and weakens everyone else.

If Wastri is the God of Bullywugs, he does not join the Church of Shadow.
The bullywugs have joined the Humanoid Alliance.

The followers of Bane refuse to join the Church of Shadow.
The God of Tyranny, say they, does not need anyone but himself, and Tyranny is forever in the hearts
of men, and shall overcome and beat down all resistance.
They point out that the UC is a kind of tyranny, for does it not command nearly all of Toril now?
The point out how the Church of Toril had the arrogance to CALL itself the Church of TORIL, and is
even now trying to conjole and maybe bully other faiths into joining.
Tyranny is forever.

Bane's church remains a potent, and independent, faith.

Loviatar is effectively driven from Realmspace.
The remnant of her true followers, the ones who truly believe in suffering and pain, are driven
underground totally.
A few of the backsliders, join the church of Sharess, which adds a new dimension to the Church of Toril,
but Loviatar is depicted as a neutral or good deity by these followers.

The followers of Malar are few now, and those that remain join the Church of Shadow out of sheer
desperation, and in their hatred of the elves, and the Humanoids who have utterly betrayed Malar by
uniting with them as one people.
The followers of Talos the destroyer fervently join the Church of Shadow, because darkness and loss
are right up their portfolio, as it were, and they wish to tear down the powers of Good that are now
triumphant across Toril.


And so the Church of Shadow is created, the pre-eminent power of evil on Toril.
It is likely the evil Gods may fuse into one being, and that being is likely to be male.

However ...

The rise of the Church of Shadow galvanizes the Church of Toril into action.
The followers of Hanali Celanil, who were vacillating, join the Church of Toril.
Although this may seem minor, it pulls large numbers of elves into the Church, and that pulls
worshippers of the other Seldarine Gods into the Church of Toril, weakening the Seldarine on Toril
permanently.
Eventually, several entire elven faiths join the Church of Toril.

The addition of Gond the Wonderbringer to the Church of Toril GREATLY STRENGTHENS IT, since nearly
all the gnomes venerate Gond, and large numbers of amongst the other races also venerate him.
The rest of the Gnomish Pantheon, except Urdlen, is pulled into the Church of Toril, as their followers
join the Church in droves.

Urdlen, in response, joins the Church of Shadow.

Eilistraee's faith grows ever stronger, as the cautious, now very shy and quiet (resurrected) elves of
Evereska (and others), make a lasting peace with the Humanoids, then lay down their ancient
grievance with the drow, and the two races unite.
Lacking a homeland, most of these elves and drow join the UC, moving into UC lands, and accepting
the overlordship of the UC (this happens while the Humanoid Alliance is still independent.)

The Seldarine are weakened further by this action, as the elves follow Eilistraee and abandon them.
The elves believe themselves betrayed and abandoned by the Seldarine, who allowed the humanoids
to kill (and eat) them, and this weakens the Seldarine further yet.

The Seldarine religion collapses Toril-wide, reduced to small cults amongst isolated groups of elves.

The Elves of Evermeet, who became Shades and then came back into the world, become the true High
Elves of Toril (the Noldor, as it were.)
They merge with the Humanoids, combining their culture with humanoid culture, and both cultures feed
off each other, enriching the other, growing together, entwining to form something greater.
The eldest daughter of the deceased Queen Amlaruil, beautiful and radiant, offers herself as
concubine to his Majesty, Forrester, King of the Humanoids.
And elves marry humanoids, and humanoids marry elves (or, they don't marry - many on both sides
do not recognize marriage as an institution.)

The result of this are countless half-elf, half-humanoid breeds.
Funny, but the new races have the strength and cunning, of the humanoids, their psionic abilities, and
they have the speed and alertness of the elves, their skills in magic and swordplay.
From the elven and humanoid point of view, at least, they are marvelous children, beautiful children.

The orcish pantheon is all but abandoned, but Gruumsh remains, now portrayed as Gruumsh the Wise
Old Man, Gruumsh the Giver of Knowledge and Wisdom, Gruumsh the Sage.
Sehanine Moonbow also remains, depicted as She of the Secret Lore, Lady of Mysteries, Lady of Allure,
and it is said now that she and Gruumsh live together (in whatever Outer Plane it may be) in harmony.

But the elves, humanoids, and their offspring are, for the most part, rather agnostic, or at least
backsliders, and religion is not a big thing for them.

Religion is an ENORMOUS thing when it comes to the Church of Compassion.
Ian Payne is remembered, as the greatest hero of Toril, practically a saint (Sainthood will be given to
him eventually.)

Everyone knows it was his prayers that brought the Angels to Toril, and that the Angels fought against
the monsters (illithid, Shades) who would have destroyed them all.
Everyone knows that the Angels and deep illithid started the process of healing the world, and that the
Angels were instrumental in clearing the air, bringing the sunlight back, stopping the quakes, calming
the seas and the volcanoes.
Everyone knows the Angels stopped the Fleet of Shadow that threatened yet another war.

The efforts of the Church of Toril are in vain.

VAST numbers of people and beings, including nearly the entire population of the old Technomancy,
join the Church of Compassion, and they do not worship any God, but instead worship the values that
brought the Angels to Toril:
Compassion
Caring
Mercy
Valiancy in the face of adversary (so yes, the Church has that militant aspect, even as the Angels were
militant against the illithid.)

Three great Churches rise on Toril.

The Church of Toril.
The Church of Compassion.
The Church of Shade (still weaker by far than the other two, and mostly underground.)

Other lesser faiths that still attract great numbers of people:

Eilistraee.
Oghma the Binder.
Bane.
The Thousand Gods of Zakhara.
The faiths of Kara-Tur.
The local faiths of the other 4 continents.

And of course, the non-religious Humanoids and elves (but the Elves of Evermeet count themselves as
Humanoids now, so in all future references where I speak of the Humanoids, I am also referring to the
Elves of Evermeet.)

The Church of Kelemvor is dead.
The Church of Compassion sealed it's fate.

The Church of Compassion makes it possible for the Rule of the Afterlife to be overthrown.

The dead no longer go before Kelemvor for Judgement: the forces of Compassion steal them away
from him, and offer them redemption (in various ways) if they will serve the Church (typically by
returning to life, returning as spirits to help the living, or if they were good men and women in life, free
salvation is given.)

The Church of Kelemvor fails, fades away, and the Church of Compassion usurps it completely, taking
over all burials.

- - -

The humanoids of the other continents of Toril, still living in primitive conditions, still lost in savagery,
have been making repeated appeals to join the Humanoid Alliance.
These savage humanoids see the Humanoids of the Alliance almost as Gods.

When the Humanoid Alliance joins the UC, most of the savage humanoids are willing to go along, and
most are willing to change their ways if the Humanoids demand it (they are, naturally, quite
suspicious, these primitives are, of the elves and humans and others the Humanoids freely mingle
with.)

With the joining of the deep illithid to the United Commonwealth, the dream of Ian Payne is truly
complete.

With the exception of small independent states, who are neutral (and a few, like Silverymoon, who are
allies), the entirety of Faerun and Zakhara, and the Realms Below these continents, are in the United
Commonwealth of Toril.
Most of Kara-Tur is in, and vast parts of the other 4 continents are in.
Luna is in.

Selune is still not in, the scro and their gith allies neutral, but they open their ports to the UC.

The phaerimm and (I must assume) the Sharn, combined with Larloch's help, and the help of many
other powers, both magical and psionic, form the Strategic Defensive Organization, designed to protect
Realmspace from threats from other Crystal Spheres, and other Planes.

And soon, a great fleet of Interstellar Warships, armed with the latest fusion beams and nuclear
missiles, soars up from the United Commonwealth of Toril to take it's place in the skies.

The elves of Northern Maztica, seeing the situation, acknowledge the overlordship of the UC, seeing
they have no choice (of all the elves, these elves remain closest to the kind Forrester hates; they are
the last True Elves, as people would say.)

The UC, especially after the Humanoid Alliance joins, keeps a careful watch on them, and reminds
them to behave themselves.
The UC does offer to extend diplomatic relations to Mystara, but the Immortals of Maztica are
reminded that this is Realmspace, and they are not to interfere here.

The UC also offers diplomatic relations to Greyspace and Oerth (which is at a loss to even comprehend
what is going on, since that planet is still medieval), and to Sigil.

- - -

The UC becomes a very cosmopolitan place, the likes of which even the elves of Myth Drannor could
not have dreamed of.
Humans, dwarves, gnomes, halflings, kender, elves, drow, svirfneblin, beholders, the occasional
phaerimm and sharn (which even now people are careful around), the occasional lich busy with his
studies (until the kender interrupt him or her), the bullywugs, orcs, goblins, hobgoblins, kobolds,
ogres, lizardmen, flind, giants, scro, gith, githyanki, the occasional githzerai (albeit they stay away
from the githyanki), the occasional aboleth (using magic to come onto dry land), the tritons, the
merfolk, some even of the sahuagin (they are viewed suspiciously), the descendants of the creator
races, the dragons (usually in human form, come out of curiousity and for other reasons), the
neoillithid, the deep illithid, the people of the Tuigan, the people of Kara-Tur, the people of Zakhara,
the people of Maztica, the peoples of the 4 other continents, all mingle together in peace.
There is not always harmony, and each race has it's own tendencies, but strong laws and strong law
enforcement keeps the peace, and discrimination is not only outlawed, it is not practiced in secret; the
lessons of the war are too recent.

Great cities, the likes of which Toril has never before seen, spring up all along the Sword Coast.
Where there were chasms created in the earth, the dwarves and illithid and others find great veins of
precious metal, and vast Cities Below spring up to mine the rich metals.
The Gnomish Cities flourish and ever grow, creating new and ever more incredible (and frightening)
inventions, probing deeper into genetics, into quantom mechanics, into computers, into stellar travel,
into natural history.

The renaissance and enlightenment comes to the UC, Humanoid Alliance, and sweeps across Toril and
it's two moons.

The UC is willing to work with Bran's Druids, and forests regrow where they were burned.
In what seems strange at first, conifers grow side by side with palm trees, subarctic vegetation and
tropical vegetation competing.
Depending on the soil conditions, some types flourish and others do not, but the trees and vegetation
of Toril are stronger, hardier, able to withstand drought, wind, storms, frost, as if they were magically
strong, and it seems they have an almost magical health now.
Trees half a thousand feet high tower skyward, and under them the lesser trees, able to tolerate
shade as trees should never have been able to do, flourish, and under them the shrugs raise their
fronds in pastoral beauty.

Crops similarly flourish, but the Gnomes have perfected the art of growing crops underground, and
clearing of forests is not necessary now.

The forests don't stop at the timberline, for their is no timberline.

The atmosphere does not grow thinner with elevation any more (although temperature swings between
day and night still increase with elevation, and it grows colder with elevation still.)
Trees now grow clear to the tops of high mountains at the equator (although the occasional snow
covers them in white glory.)
In the former temperate latitudes, the trees start to have a hard time at about 15 to 20,000 feet, and
beyond that great praires extend up to the peaks, and the snows come further down, especially during
the time of low sun (what used to be called winter), covering the trees, sending the palms dormant,
and covering the spruces in a magnificent sheen of white.
At the poles, the mountains are snow covered during the long night, but not during the long day, and
the vegetation - extending up to 10,000 feet, goes dormant during the long night.

The Solar Wind continues to be felt (greatly to the annoyance of those trying to sleep), but sitting out
in the sun brings healing and health to those who do it, and on a minor note nobody sunburns
anymore.

The atmosphere remains greener than ever, with a great bright, light green halo around the yellow
sun, where the great streamers of ejected matter gleam in streamers, clouds, and swirls of red and
orange glory.

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Edena_of_Neith
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Member # 1235
posted December 08, 2001 07:32 PM

Clemency for the last of the evil illithid is considered a good idea by the Parliament of the UC, but ...
they think he should have a Helm of Opposition placed on him first.

Then he can write down the wonders and mysteries of the illithid.

The Church of Oghma the Binder would absolutely love to read his writings, and they believe that here
is one who can provide the world with profound revelations on the nature of reality.
The gnomes join in on this chorus, and the Church of Compassion agrees that he should be released
and write his memoirs.

Aid is offered to Zouron in the form of the Angels.
They come and rescue him from the Mists of Ravenloft.
This is done because of Zouron's deeds against the City of Shade, and the part he played in bringing
the light to Toril.

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[Edena_of_Neith]

(Post 43) The Second IR

Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 08, 2001 07:34 PM

I must wonder what Ed Greenwood and the FR Design Team would say, if they read the IR.

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Edena_of_Neith
Member
Member # 1235
posted December 08, 2001 07:37 PM

I am just a simple Gamer.
I was a good DM in my heyday, or at least some thought so.

I cannot run even a simple 3E game, lacking enough knowledge of the mechanics to do so.

- - -

I did not think a second IR thread was possible, not even theoretically.

When I began this second IR, I looked at myself, and thought - you are attempting the impossible.

They have nukes, they have doomsday weapons, they have technomancy utterly beyond the scope of
D&D, and they are all at each other's throats.

Yet we did it. We wrote the second IR thread.

- - -

I did not make the posts that caused Toril to become as it has become.

You did.

The story was, and is, your story.

Everything that was accomplished, and everything dark and chaotic that happened also, you achieved.

I would be willing to bet that you did not believe (or in some cases, even imagine, for I did not) that it
would end this way?

If you wish to post follow-up messages and comments to this post, please do so.

I'd like to hear what you have to say.
And if you have any more IC things to say, say them.

Edena_of_Neith

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Riot Gear
Member
Member # 202
posted December 08, 2001 08:06 PM

Anabstercorian will commit suicide psionically if they even attempt to warp his mind through magic. He
will NOT allow his culture to be tainted.

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I love maces, I really do. That crunch noise is just SO satisfying, and the flying shards of bloody bone
- Well, that's just icing on the cake.


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Edena_of_Neith
Member
Member # 1235
posted December 08, 2001 08:18 PM

Oh very well.
They do not attempt to alter him by putting a Helm of Opposition on his head.

Suggestions for altering the illithid so he's not a threat, once released (assuming you release him) ?

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Riot Gear
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Member # 202
posted December 08, 2001 08:58 PM

Frankly, the best thing he can think of is group therapy with deep illithid. He imagines their perspective
on things will allow him to understand his own situation better.

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I love maces, I really do. That crunch noise is just SO satisfying, and the flying shards of bloody bone
- Well, that's just icing on the cake.


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Forrester
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Member # 2760
posted December 08, 2001 10:00 PM


quote:

Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith:
Oh very well.
They do not attempt to alter him by putting a Helm of Opposition on his head.

Suggestions for altering the illithid so he's not a threat, once released (assuming you
release him) ?


I am still not opposed to forcibly ending his life . . . but if he must remain, then I insist that before he
is released, he undergo some sort of psychic surgery to decrease his now-great power to that of one of
the "common" illithid. This surgery must be of the kind that is unreversible through Heal, Wish, and so
on, even if it means that we have to use a Counter-Wish or three.

Alternatively, he can write up the admittedly interesting history in complete ethereal, astral, and Prime
Material lock-up.

Forrester
Peacemaker
Speaker for the Elves of Evermeet?!?!!!


PS YAY US!!!!!!!!!!
Much props to Edena for taking us through another round! Woo-hoo! Let's *HOPE* it's the last . . . not
because I never want to do this again, but because it looks like there's peace on Toril at last. And
because I don't think any of us could handle the tech/destruction levels in another 40 years of game
time.

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Phasmus
Member
Member # 2639
posted December 08, 2001 11:06 PM

The Deep Illithid agree to take Anabstercorian into their custody. They will treat him well, and give him
as much freedom as possible... though their security measures border on paranoid, at the start.

After comparing notes, in a philosophical sense, the Deep Illithid and the Neoillithid agree that, for a
number of reasons, choosing goodness of your own free will is vastly preferable to having it forced
upon you. They do not support the church's alignment-reversal policies, or any form of sanctioned
mental domination or alteration for that matter, though they have no complaint about the option
being given to the convicted as an alternative to death.

---

Many thanks Edena. This has been an enjoyable event indeed.


Regards,

Phasmus
aka Don'Calamari

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Forrester
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Member # 2760
posted December 09, 2001 12:04 AM


quote:

Originally posted by Phasmus:

After comparing notes, in a philosophical sense, the Deep Illithid and the Neoillithid
agree that . . . [t]hey do not support . . . any form of sanctioned mental domination.


Shees. Then what are you guys going to do with your time?



Forrester
Peacemaker

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Reprisal
Member
Member # 2368
posted December 09, 2001 12:04 AM

What can I say that would be accurate enough to convey the feeling I have after this endeavour? I
don't believe I can do it justice, but all I can really say is that this has been, by far, one of the
greatest RPG experiences in my gaming career. It truly is quite amazing that the thread(s) remained
coherent enough to keep going for so long. My only regret is that we had those such as Lord Talos
earlier in the game... Still, great work everyone, and thank you Edena!

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"Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus


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Gez
Member
Member # 444
posted December 09, 2001 02:51 AM

The Church of Toril begin to work on a new project, and seek the help of the illithids (and Larloch, if he
agree) for that.

Their aim is to create a mental network to which everyone could become part of, if they wants to.

This mental net would allow to access the lore of everyone that consitute this net (but it would be, of
course, possible to hide things: private life is to be respected).

This will be like the Internet of the origin, a tool for sharing knowledge and opinion.

But it will be on a direct, instantaneous level.

And their are other plans for it.

The Sharessite members of the Church of Toril wants it to have a great empathical power. So that
when you makes a "netted" person feel an emotion, you feel that same emotion yourself.

Making people happy would makes you happy. Hurting people would makes you feel pain.

The Gnomes are interested by this project, and begin to work on computers, magicomputers, and
psionicomputers that would be connected to this network, to offer their information storage and
computation capacity to the "collective conscient" (as they call this project).

The engineers also plan to make domotic installations, robots and golems that will be attuned to that
net, so that they could be commanded by mere mental orders.

They also thinks this net will allow them to solve the problems they have for designing consistant
nanorobots clusters.

The Church recruits engineers, magi, and psionics for working on this project. The specifications are
increased each times new member begin to work on the project. Now, it should also be a spellpool
(see Tome & Blood or Magic of Faerûn) and its psionic equivalent.

Gnome druids and technodruids join the project and works on how to link awakened plants and
animals. Their long-term goal for this is to have the whole planet become sentient (if you see Gaia in
the Foundation boks by Asimov, you'll have a good idea of what they want). They try to recruits druids
from other races to work on this project as well.

The magi and psionics that have joined the project hopes it will allow to develop an unified Theory of
Magic, that would be known by everyone in the "collective conscious", that would transcend the
limitations of arcane, divine, and psionics and give them True Magic, the magic from which all other
magics are mere subparts. This may even allow them to access raw magic even without the interface of
the Weave or the Shadow Weave.

It may even be possible that people, at their death, will instead fuse with the "collective conscious"
and litterally stay alive in everyone's memories.

It may even be possible that the deitis that are venerated by the Church of Toril will end up fusing with
this network build upon the three pillars of nature, science, and magic.

Edena, in how many time this very ambitious project will be realized ?

And who will help and put their resources behind this (Forrester, Reprisal, I need you) ?

War would no longer be possible. Hatred would no longer be possible. Sadism would no longer be
possible. At least among the members of that network. But the advantages given to you by the
network would be so tantalizing (control over the machines, immense knowledges, increased
abstractions and computations capacity, magic-like communications by simple telepathy) that few
people would not want to join. And those who join will be stronger than those who do not.

Peace and harmony to their ultimate level.

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Edena_of_Neith
Member
Member # 1235
posted December 09, 2001 03:03 AM

Thank you, all of you, for the compliments.

I thought I had lost it, lost forever the ability to run or moderate a game (or, at least in this case, a
kind of game.)
It's been years since I ran a game.
It's been years since I played regularly.

I am glad I was able to bring back the fire one more time.

Reprisal, you did a really fantastic job with those posts of yours. You made Ian Payne come alive, both
in the first IR thread and in this one. You gave the Technomancy/Technocratic
Commonwealth/Commonwealth of Toril life.
That is why I had the Church of Compassion rise in the end, because Ian Payne was such a memorial
person, a dedicating loving man who fought and fought for his people, gave eloquent speeches, and
was rped fantastically.

Forrester, your zeal was the big engine of the first IR thread, in your unremitting war against all
elvendom.
And you succeeded in exterminating the elves perhaps beyond anyone's expectations, down to the
least and last.
Yet here you are, as you just said, as Speaker of the Elves of Evermeet.
I didn't do that on purpose; it just happened that way.
I would not have imagined that it would have ended that way, with Forrester as King of the elves, and
as the elves leaping and cavorting, mating with and celebrating with, the humanoids.
You never did say if you took the Queen's daughter as your concubine ...

You said elves were played badly by most players, and that they were a munchkin race.
You must admit that my elves, and my conception of elves, is a bit different from the norm.

Phasmus, you did very well with the illithid, even when I kept throwing curve balls at you.
The idea of the NeoIllithid, your idea, was very interesting.
And somehow, through all of this, you kept the illithid dignified, in a way lofty (both a dark loftiness
and a bright loftiness).
It is not a wonder people look at the illithid and neoillithid as the intellectuals, the advisors, the
people you go to when there is a problem nobody else can solve.

Riot Gear, you are exactly that. A riot!
Your total war letter to me, with the illithid stating they were going to get everyone, period, was what
started Armaggedon.
Of course, the man who declared the angels were declaring all out war (My eyes have seen the glory of
the coming of the Lord ...) sorta helped.
And the fact SOMEONE decided to send a host to aid the City of Shade.

The Armaggedon did not destroy the world after all. What do you know, you didn't need Elminster or
Khelben or Pierigon to save you from the mess you made after all.

Of course, Elminster, back in Shadowdale, would just take a puff on his pipe, blow a beautiful smoke
ring, and comment:

I always knew they'd pull through.
They just needed a little nudging.

Now, I must admit, we did not have Balance.
Balance, that wondrous thing that everyone believes is essential to a game, was not there.
Or was it?
Surely, with nuclear weapons flying, blast waves making the moons stream like comets, the world
turning green, vast armies clashing in final duels to the death, and the Gods of Toril refusing to
intervene in the slightest way, I was not trying to keep balance, or work towards a balance.
Or was I?

Aloisius, I wish to give my cheers and compliments to you for your idea of a ritual of love to save
things.
I had to carefully paraphrase what Aloisius told me, but I wish to say that, the climax of the Weave
was not an accident.

Zouron, you give yourself too little credit.
You transferred that tarrasque to the City of Shade right through the lands between, without harming
them! With a simple bit of creativity.
And you created the Magocracy, the adult version of Harry Potter, and it still stands, and it's culture will
influence the rest of Toril forever.

Balor, I always loved your posts; especially the fiery ones at the start of the first IR thread: why do you
think I pleaded with you to allow me to put them all back in before I asked Piratecat to put them in
the histories?
So, where were you? Heh, you could have done a great job at any power you wished to run.

Estlor, I missed you. You should have spoken for the elves, including the elves of Evermeet, and not
me.
(I must wonder how Forrester thinks of my rping of elves ...)
I suppose that if you had run them, the elves would not be cavorting and dancing and mating with the
humanoids, but your solemn serious posts depicted the People well, as they are portrayed in the
literature on FR.

Blood Jester, I wish you had stayed, and played out the Faerie.
The Faerie will be remembered as stubborn cusses; enough defected with the dragons to return the
Faerie to Toril, and the Queen dares not exile them because the Unseelie would jump on that.

Cheers to Gez, who took Aloisius's place and continued with the Church of Toril.
A bit aggressive there, no?
Heh ... you can't get all the Gods instantly. Will take time.

And to a certain person who e-mailed me, and who has a special gift at words, thanks for playing the
Sigilians and Sharn.
Who better than you to play the Sharn?
They were always a mysterious, but brilliant, race.
I wish to extend my regret that you did not get more of a chance to play.

Talos, thanks for joining in.
If you had come in earlier, I think the world would have ended!

To the slaadi player, good playing. Your Wave of Chaos went off after all, didn't it?! (the condition of
Toril's sun will reflect it for centuries to come, too.)

Who did I miss. Well, about 20 other people. Nuts.
One cannot give credit to a few, and not to all.
I guess I should have never posted above ...

Thank you all. Thanks for posting, and playing. Thanks for the fun.

Now, it does beg one question: How did you all somehow manage to avoid utterly destroying
Realmspace?
I'm still puzzling over that one ...

[ December 09, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ]


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posted December 09, 2001 03:05 AM

Gez, I don't know.
The others know of this project, and they may have something to say on it.
They may prevent the Church of Toril from completing it, or at least completing it in that form.

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posted December 09, 2001 03:16 AM

You know, the current world could be a regular D&D setting, with just a few modifications.

Take out technology, and technomagic does not exist thus, and we must assume very high powered
magic is the driving engine of the UC.
But nothing else, is changed.

I admit, it is an FR knocked completely out of all recognition.

Some will say that it is like a tree someone mutilated with a chain saw (look of pain, for that just
happened today next door.)
Perhaps they are right ... in which case the actions of the Powers That Be in the Official Setting are
justified:

They would never have allowed the Industrial Revolution to even take it's first steps, much less have
tolerated what subsequently happened!
The Powers That Be on Toril, would have stomped down on everyone pretty quick.

Then again, perhaps they are wrong, and the Toril you created is not a multilated ruined affair, in
which case, well ... we created something new and different.
But did we create something worth remembering? Something you'd want as a campaign world?

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