Joss Whedon Allegations: The Undoing of the "Buffy" Creator

[Hex08]

Yup, Joss Whedon has shown himself to be a pretty crappy person. If it were only one or two people calling him (or anyone) out, then maybe it's just conflicting personalities and different perceptions of the situation. When it's a whole lot of people then the odds are good that he's the ass he's being made out to be.

That said, I can't fathom why people suddenly decide that they can't watch his previous work because of the revelations. The work is still the work and its quality hasn't changed since Joss was outed as a jerk. I still love and frequently rewatch Firefly and Avengers and Joss being a cruel person doesn't change the quality of the shows. I'm sure if went back and rewatched Buffy I would probably still enjoy it. I worry that the feel of The Nevers is going to drastically change (if it comes back) without Joss.

 

[Parmandur]

Yup, Joss Whedon has shown himself to be a pretty crappy person. If it were only one or two people call him (or anyone) out, then maybe it's just conflicting personalities and different perceptions of the situation. When it's a whole lot of people then the odds are good that he's the ass he's being made out to be.

That said, I can't fathom why people suddenly decide that they can't watch his previous work because of the revelations. The work is still the work and its quality hasn't changed since Joss was outed as a jerk. I still love and frequently rewatch Firefly and Avengers and Joss being a cruel person doesn't change the quality of the shows. I'm sure if went back and rewatched Buffy I would probably still enjoy it. I worry that the feel of The Nevers is going to drastically change (if it comes back) without Joss.

It is not the craft of the work that changed, but the meaning takes on a new light. Stories bear meaning, and learning new information can really change the tenor of a story. Xander has not aged well, for example.

 

[Deset Gled]

Xander has not aged well, for example.

How has Xander not aged well? Or are you referring to Nicholas Brendan, who has had a bit of a rough time.

 

[Vael]

Honestly, Xander's character hadn't aged well even before the allegations. He's judgmental and not a good friend, he slut shames the women in his life, kinda a garbage character

 

[Parmandur]

How has Xander not aged well? Or are you referring to Nicholas Brendan, who has had a bit of a rough time.

He's a nasty misogynistic little creep, and an authorial self insert. Should have been a red flag at the time, frankly.

 

[Parmandur]

Honestly, Xander's character hadn't aged well even before the allegations. He's judgmental and not a good friend, he slut shames the women in his life, kinda a garbage character

But hey, he makes funny quips and is a "nice guy"

 

[Sacrosanct]

Yup, Joss Whedon has shown himself to be a pretty crappy person. If it were only one or two people call him (or anyone) out, then maybe it's just conflicting personalities and different perceptions of the situation. When it's a whole lot of people then the odds are good that he's the ass he's being made out to be.

That said, I can't fathom why people suddenly decide that they can't watch his previous work because of the revelations. The work is still the work and its quality hasn't changed since Joss was outed as a jerk. I still love and frequently rewatch Firefly and Avengers and Joss being a cruel person doesn't change the quality of the shows. I'm sure if went back and rewatched Buffy I would probably still enjoy it. I worry that the feel of The Nevers is going to drastically change (if it comes back) without Joss.

Iirc, Joss wasn't involved in the Nevers except the first couple episodes anyway

 

[Sepulchrave II]

Terrible folks who are dead are another beast entirely, to which I would say follow the money. The Eddings' trust is in the hands of a school, for instance.

Reed College IIRC, a private liberal arts college in Portland which charges nearly $80000 per year.

Must ... resist.

I successfully resisted.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

If you want some sort of boycott, don't give him future work.

The only way to do that is to not give money to anything with his name on it.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

I didn't mean to drive this discussion into the weeds regarding Roseanne. My point was that any attempts to boycott Joss Whedon's work will unavoidably affect others...others who might not deserve to be punished for Whedon's abuse. Thus, "boycott Joss Whedon" isn't an ideal solution.

I disagree. Strongly. TV and film are industries run on reputation. The point isn’t whether Whedon will suffer due to Buffy residuals drying up.
The point is that studios will give him less work, he won’t be invited to as many conventions, or speak at as many colleges, etc, if everyone knows that his reputation is toxic and repellant.