Darklone said:The god was not named yet. The paladin is a killer sure. But could you please answer on our emphasis on "It's important how you do something, not if."
We're not against killing, we're against how he kills.
And PLEASE. Read the rest of the thread instead of repeating arguments that were answered on page 3-8.
IMO, he won't. Why? Because if he did he would not be a Paladin. A Paladin (in FR) gets his Powers from his god, because the god trusts the Paladin to walk the line without becoming evil.Darklone said:But is it good to become evil while killing evil ?
If that's lawful good for you... then I'm sorry for you.mroberon1972 said:Ok... Good queston.
Ask a police negotiator or sniper.
The negotiator will lie, trick, and play mindgames with a perp until he's a psychic wreck, then act like his friend to get him out into the open where he can be taken down. Every one I have met would line up to lawful good better than most people I know.
The sniper does not care if the perp is facing or away, and they don't have to give warning a sniper is going to shoot the perp. Oh, and he doesn't have to be holding a weapon either.
jgbrowning said:Hey Wulf, from a D&D cosmology viewpoint, the "good" planes are almost free of violence while the "evil" planes are full of them. I think part of the defining of good and evil in both BoED and BoVD takes this basic cosmology into account.
Put in cosmological terms, any act of violence can be seen as a result of evil.
Darklone said:Once again for the third time now: HOW did he do that? Without honor. Nothing against execution. Nothing against killing. But he did it not like a paladin should.
Sure. Did this paladin walk the line? IMHO not. He overstepped it a little bit. Not too much, but he acted without honor... and IMHO without being pressed too hard yet.Joker[ZW] said:IMO, he won't. Why? Because if he did he would not be a Paladin. A Paladin (in FR) gets his Powers from his god, because the god trusts the Paladin to walk the line without becoming evil.
We could ask Eadrics player to post here, but knowing him from the story I think he wouldn't have acted like this paladin. Remember the battle where he subdued his opponents on the battlefield?IMO the Nietzsche quote is good for "normal" people, a Paladin is a Paladin because his God trusts him to do what other people would not be able to do without succumbing to evil.
Sometime a god is wrong in his judgement, thus a Blackguard is born.
You read Sepulchrave's Story Hour, Darklone and I think it is a good example of what a Paladin should be able to do without losing the trust of his diety.
Darklone said:Paladins should not like to kill.
Wulf Ratbane said:To say that "all violence is evil" is a pacifist approach. The core D&D game is not pacifist.
And certainly in the real world, one can make a very solid argument that pacifism and non-violence inevitably leads to GREATER EVIL than measured, violent resistance. Perforce, as Evil, using violence as a means, would be impossible to resist. Pacifism is not a valid response to the relentless assault of evil.
Wulf