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New Excerpts - Tome of Battle & Dragons of Faerun
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VirgilCaine
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Fishbone said:
Because he can't throw death out to 1000', he can only get to enemies within his reach. Which, sure, permanent Enlarge and reach weapons aside, isn't nearly as large as even a close range spell at high level.
I'm A Banana
Potassium-Rich
Yeah, it seems like his big loss (and the big loss of many of the ToB guys) is the range. This is especially key for movement speed -- while the fighter is running around on his horse and the barbarian is, well, likely almost running as FAST as a horse ( 
), the Warblade is plodding along.
Also, often in rules comparisons, the ability to hit accurately is > the ability to hit for a lot of damage (see, for example, when people believe Power Attack is worth it vs. when it isn't). A d12 HD doesn't fully compensate for a mediocre AC, especially because it seems like these guys are going to be almost pure archer-fodder (or spellcaster-fodder).
They still seem REALLY powerful...perhaps still enough to overshadow the fighter or the barbarian. But it's still iffy, especially if a Fighter or Barbarian could gain access to these manuevers and stances fairly easily themselves.
), the Warblade is plodding along.Also, often in rules comparisons, the ability to hit accurately is > the ability to hit for a lot of damage (see, for example, when people believe Power Attack is worth it vs. when it isn't). A d12 HD doesn't fully compensate for a mediocre AC, especially because it seems like these guys are going to be almost pure archer-fodder (or spellcaster-fodder).
They still seem REALLY powerful...perhaps still enough to overshadow the fighter or the barbarian. But it's still iffy, especially if a Fighter or Barbarian could gain access to these manuevers and stances fairly easily themselves.
VirgilCaine
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Kamikaze Midget said:Yeah, it seems like his big loss (and the big loss of many of the ToB guys) is the range. This is especially key for movement speed -- while the fighter is running around on his horse and the barbarian is, well, likely almost running as FAST as a horse (
Also, often in rules comparisons, the ability to hit accurately is > the ability to hit for a lot of damage (see, for example, when people believe Power Attack is worth it vs. when it isn't). A d12 HD doesn't fully compensate for a mediocre AC, especially because it seems like these guys are going to be almost pure archer-fodder (or spellcaster-fodder).
They still seem REALLY powerful...perhaps still enough to overshadow the fighter or the barbarian. But it's still iffy, especially if a Fighter or Barbarian could gain access to these manuevers and stances fairly easily themselves.
I'm not sure how many they can access, but there are feats you can take to get a stance or a feat in the excerpt.
I'm A Banana
Potassium-Rich
And the preview page appears to be down for some reason right now. I was going to check how easily a Fighter might be able to gain some of these powers as well....because feats grow on trees for Fighters, so sacrificing a few to gain these abilities is okay.
Still, it would make me nervous if the fighter HAD to take advantage of these new abilities to keep pace with the things they release in the book....smacks of imbalance right there.
One thing to note is that there are limited weapon selection and "key skills" for each discipline. Would this mean that randomized chance of failure is present? Or that, in order to make use of something like +100 damage, you have to use a relatively poor weapon?
Still, it would make me nervous if the fighter HAD to take advantage of these new abilities to keep pace with the things they release in the book....smacks of imbalance right there.
One thing to note is that there are limited weapon selection and "key skills" for each discipline. Would this mean that randomized chance of failure is present? Or that, in order to make use of something like +100 damage, you have to use a relatively poor weapon?
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