New haste on WotC website!

[Enceladus]

I like it, its balanced more with the level of the spell I think. Not much more to say that hasn't been said already.

 

[seasong]

Ah, no insane wizards dropping a Greater Dispelling followed by a maximized Fireball on the party anymore...

Sure they will, but they'll be doing it with quicken spell.

Personally, I like the new haste... it's just not actually haste. That's okay. I'll just use this spell and rename my nerfed version of haste to quicksilver or something. Best of both worlds.

 

[MerricB]

That was what I meant (but english is not my native language...). Thanks for clearing the mess up

No problem. Oh, English is tricky to express some concepts in.

Especially rules. You normally have to define a whole lot of new terms, which people then get confused about.

Cheers!

 

[Magic Rub]

Sure they will, but they'll be doing it with quicken spell.

Personally, I like the new haste... it's just not actually haste. That's okay. I'll just use this spell and rename my nerfed version of haste to quicksilver or something. Best of both worlds.

I'll probably use both the new & the old haste in my game (if I make the switch to 3.5?). As with you I'll probably just call it Greater haste & bump it up to 6th or 7th (+++?) level. The old haste is too much fun (for both DM & players), & I would hate to loose it... so I won't .

 

[Tzarevitch]

I must say that I am VERY, VERY happy with the changes to haste. I had house-ruled haste to not allow a second spell the minute I first read it in my 3e PHB, but I am happy to see WoTC admit what I had been telling my group, that they couldn't possibly have meant that as written.

Tzarevitch

 

[Dark Dragon]

Sure they will, but they'll be doing it with quicken spell.

Indeed. But should that happen, the party (level 15) will rest in pieces after that encounter (if Quicken Spell is not to be changed and the group is not blasted into oblivion in RttToEE - the next session will see victory or final defeat in the CRM...)

 

[MerricB]

Sure they will, but they'll be doing it with quicken spell.

Personally, I like the new haste... it's just not actually haste. That's okay. I'll just use this spell and rename my nerfed version of haste to quicksilver or something. Best of both worlds.

That's the spirit!

It's funny - to me, the 3E version of haste wasn't haste - because I was used to the 1E and 2E versions which were very similar to the 3.5E version (no extra spells!).

Cheers!

 

[Darklone]

Should this be interpreted so that fighter with two weapons would gain two extra attacks out of the new haste?

I think yes, by the description.

 

[mmu1]

What were they thinking? Making a 3rd level spell that gives an extra attack to the whole party? I mean, really, I can't think of any reasons why I'd rather not memorize Fireball and do an average of 17 points of damage with a Reflex save for half...

I think it's a great change, allowing Haste to be used to cast multiple spells in a round was one of the greatest mistakes the 3E designers ever made. Now, if you're thinking in terms of team play the spell is actually more useful than before, but not nearly as open to abuse.

 

[Fenes 2]

I say nay. Based on common sense.