D&D 5E Obelisks? [spoilers YES]

[Parmandur]

Jergal has always been mysterious.

Also clearly not human in origin. Though where was it stated he was originally a Weaver?
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It's a very, very deep lpre cut near as I can make out. It does seem to be confirmed by Greenwood and other "Lote Master" types, like Eric Boyd, who actually pit oit this prodict on the DMsFuild in the not too distant past with, apparently, Greenwood's blessing:

Jergal: Lord of the End of Everything - Dungeon Masters Guild | Dungeon Masters Guild

Jergal: Lord of the End of Everything - Jergal, the Lord of the End of Everything, is the enigmatic Seneschal of the Dead. Learn about the history of the most m

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[Paul Farquhar]

It's a very, very deep lpre cut near as I can make out. It does seem to be confirmed by Greenwood and other "Lote Master" types, like Eric Boyd, who actually pit oit this prodict on the DMsFuild in the not too distant past with, apparently, Greenwood's blessing:

Jergal: Lord of the End of Everything - Dungeon Masters Guild | Dungeon Masters Guild

Jergal: Lord of the End of Everything - Jergal, the Lord of the End of Everything, is the enigmatic Seneschal of the Dead. Learn about the history of the most m

www.dmsguild.com

Jergal was presumably in the 1st edition FR (published 1987), but I can't find any sources older than 2nd edition. Seems deeply suspicious to me....

 

[Parmandur]

Jergal was presumably in the 1st edition FR (published 1987), but I can't find any sources older than 2nd edition. Seems deeply suspicious to me....

Doesn’t appear in the Grey Box, or in Forgotten Realms Adventures.

Wouldn't surprise me if Jergal primarily appeared in novels at first?

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Doesnappear in the Grey Box, or in Forgotten Realma Adventures.

Wouldn't surprise me if Jergal primarily appeared in novels at first?

Possibly the Kelemvor novel is first appearance? I haven't read that.

 

[Clint_L]

I mean, first, they have been saying they are for a few years now, and second, that fits an RPG settong a bit more than a movie series. Provides cover for why my FR is different than yours.

Insofar as that goes, it's fine. But please, WotC, don't start trying to link all the adventure settings into one giant meta-plot that risks all of the multiverse, yada, yada.

 

[Echohawk]

Jergal was presumably in the 1st edition FR (published 1987), but I can't find any sources older than 2nd edition. Seems deeply suspicious to me....

I also can't find any mention of Jergal prior to the 1993 FR boxed set. Curious!

 

[Parmandur]

Possibly the Kelemvor novel is first appearance? I haven't read that.

I read, like, one of the Moonshae trilogy and one of the Hartsvale books, very randomly, long ago. Not overly familiar with the novel scene.

 

[Parmandur]

Insofar as that goes, it's fine. But please, WotC, don't start trying to link all the adventure settings into one giant meta-plot that risks all of the multiverse, yada, yada.

Actually, in this case, the point seems to.be to kill metaplot by making it very clear in the texts that the DM is the arbiter of the universe. But also allow crossovers, if a DM wants that tool.

 

[Demetrios1453]

I also can't find any mention of Jergal prior to the 1993 FR boxed set. Curious!

I'm pretty sure he first appeared in the novel Prince of Lies, which also came out in 1993. I think that was published before the boxed set. Either way, they had obviously coordinated the novel and the set to include him. He definitely wasn't mentioned before that time - I remember reading the novel when it came out and how intriguing the character was.

 

[Parmandur]

I'm pretty sure he first appeared in the novel Prince of Lies, which also came out in 1993. I think that was published before the boxed set. Either way, they had obviously coordinated the novel and the set to include him. He definitely wasn't mentioned before that time - I remember reading the novel when it came out and how intriguing the character was.

And that appears to be where the main really spellweaverish photo on the Wiki comes from.

Found this from Greenwood:

"Hi again, all. Ed just sent me another e-mail, in which he regretfully noted that Jergal is too NDA'd for him to say much about Jergal's mortal existence before ascension. However, he added this enigmatic comment:"

"Much has yet to be revealed about the spellweaver race and about the racial past/development of the thri-kreen. Both of which have a connection to Jergal (in one case to his mortal self AND his divine self, and in the other only to his divine self).
There. NDAs avoided by one of deftest dances I've had to do in a long time. :}"

"So saith Ed. Who promises a reply to Joran re paladinhood, next.
love,
THO"

Candlekeep Forum - Questions for Ed Greenwood (2010)