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RichGreen

Adventurer
Hi,

I've just posted Design Diary No.10 here, including a preview of the Slums in the Dock Ward. I'm also keen to get feedback on how to describe NPC class and level (if at all) in an edition neutral D&D book.

Let me know what you think

Cheers


Rich
 

Ferghis

First Post
The problem with granting class and level to NPCs is that it will not be edition neutral, even for D&D. My suggestion is to give NPCs a general description as to capabilities, even going insofar as ranking them if the character has a real reputation. For example, a guard may be described simply as mildly competent with a spear and shield, but with little actual combat experience. Or a famous warrior might described as one of the best swordsmen in the land, likely able to best X and Y, but probably not Z in a straight sword fight.

Then, if you really want to do the work, you might note race, level and class for a few editions of D&D (probably Pathfinder and 4e), and perhaps describe the more noteworthy equipment and spells they would normally carry. I wouldn't waste time noting ability scores, hit points, or those kinds of things for each NPC. Maybe include a few tables in the appendix covering combat stats for each class & level used of the editions you want to cover, just so DMs aren't caught with their pants down if the players start a fight.
 

RichGreen

Adventurer
Thanks Ferghis. I'm sticking with general descriptions for now - this has the benefit of allowing the DM to customize the NPC according to the PCs' level. The main reason for asking is to give an idea of which clerics/temples can offer high level healing, raise dead etc. For the moment I'm just including that info in the description too.

I did think about the appendix idea but it's hard to express 4e PCs with level + class. It would be more like level + brute/skirmisher/controller etc

Cheers


Rich
 


RichGreen

Adventurer
Hi,

That could work - I could at least do a table/long list with name, race, sex and then level + class for Pathfinder, level + monster role for 4e. What about all the experts and commoners - make them minions?


Richard
 

Ferghis

First Post
Just to be clear, at the bottom of the NPC's description, I'd add something like:
Pathfinder: level X Adept or Aristocrat or Commoner or Expert or Warrior
D&D 4e: level X (solo/elite/minion) soldier or skirmisher or etc.
And then, in an appendix, give defenses, HP, attack bonuses, and average damage for each of those. You can probably use the slyfluorish tables (with attribution) for the 4e stuff.

What about all the experts and commoners - make them minions?
In 3.5, those would be experts - in theory. I do hate the notion of a librarian or a smith having a ton of HP, but that's how the game implements it, I think.

In 4e, just give them the skills, rituals or powers you want. You can even say "Can cast up to level 13 Nature rituals." No need for combat stats if they're not combat-worthy, so to speak. At least that's my opinion.
 

RichGreen

Adventurer
Ah, right. I was thinking of putting the level + class info in the appendix and not bothering with hp etc. I guess putting it with the description makes a bit more sense ;)

Will give it some thought and discuss with my layout person/editor (aka my wife Kate)

Cheers


Rich
 


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