D&D (2024) Should we have Level 1 ASIs at all?

[Scars Unseen]

I'm with you. Leave ASIs to half feat choices only.

I'd be for that even beyond the first level. Just depreciate ASIs as a primary power gain altogether, and focus on more interesting ways of building your character.

 

[Smackpixi]

It surely doesn’t matter whether you do or not, but being able to goose up a couple preferred stats makes people happy. Make people happy.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

I think being able to customize rolls a bit is nice to have.

 

[delericho]

I play without ASI at 1st level, and I've played with no ASI at all. Both work great, but it may require to be a little more generous with magic items to keep the math somewhat balanced.

Or just increase the Proficiency Bonus by 1. That's not a perfect substitute, but it should work out pretty close.

 

[delericho]

FWIW, I'd be in favour of getting rid of the ASIs. And not just at first level.

 

[reelo]

FWIW, I'd be in favour of getting rid of the ASIs. And not just at first level.

Yes! I hate the fact that everyone is constantly working to get that 20 in their respective "main stat"!
Make lvl 1 stats be the "peak" physical and mental abilities that the PC is capable of, and nothing short of magic can make them go up further.

Or, alternatively (and I'm shamelessly stealing/modifying this from The Black Hack here) have players at levelup roll a d20 for each stat (in any order they want). If the roll comes up ABOVE their current stat, they get an increase. But you can only get one stat incease per levelup (hence the "roll in any order") This way you get the occasional ASI but it gets increasingly harder the better your stats are.

 

[Frozen_Heart]

Yeah I'd rather not have the lvl 1 ASI's at all. I already feel like characters start with too high ability scores.

 

[CubicsRube]

My preference is a restricted starting array/point buy only, and then get a 1 point ASI every level.

It's too far removed from the 5e leveling structure as it currently is however.

 

[aco175]

Might be ok if 1st level feats had their own list that are not to be taken at higher levels. Some of the older feats that nobody took or ones that may be inherited rather than earned.

 

[Horwath]

we do not need to have it, but for some kind of reasons we do.

just modify point buy:

32pts;

8: 0pts
9: 1pt
10: 2pts
11: 3pts
12: 4pts
13: 5pts
14: 6pts
15: 8pts
16: 10pts

or default array of 16,16,14,12,10,8