How do you figure out the components, the focus, XP cost, and the time required to activate a SLA? By looking up the rules governing SLAs.hong said:How do you figure out what a given SLA does? By looking up the spell description.
As I said before, not everything governing the usage of an SLA is tied in with the spell discription.hong said:The one is part of the other. Therefore, when the SRD refers to "ability description", it implicitly includes a reference to the spell.
Just a minor counterpoint to debunk your statement that everything is determined by the spell discription... and I was happy to see you.hong said:Did you have a point, or were you just happy to see me?
Let me point out that (a) I specifically said "according to the SRD and the All About Spell-Like Abilities article," and (b) the previous quote you pulled from the rules is out of the PHB.Mulkhoran said:One more time:
So, you want to know how long it takes to use, you look at the ability description. Doesn't say? Ok, you go look a the spell description, under casting time.A spell like ability has a casting time of 1 standard action unless noted otherwise in the ability or spell description.
"unless noted otherwise in the ability or spell description"
sledged said:How do you figure out the components, the focus, XP cost, and the time required to activate a SLA? By looking up the rules governing SLAs.
As I said before, not everything governing the usage of an SLA is tied in with the spell discription.
Just a minor counterpoint to debunk your statement that everything is determined by the spell discription... and I was happy to see you.
sledged said:Let me point out that (a) I specifically said "according to the SRD and the All About Spell-Like Abilities article," and (b) the previous quote you pulled from the rules is out of the PHB.
Because there are several factors of SLAs that aren't dictated by their relevant spell discription, you shouldn't necessarily assume that "ability description" implicitly includes "spell description."hong said:And this refutes the fact that "ability description" includes "spell description"... how?
Then for you the PHB trumps the other two sources, and the answer becomes perfectly clear:Mulkhoran said:I guess my point comes from the fact that I see the PHB as the Primary Source for D&D rules.
sledged said:Because there are several factors of SLAs that aren't dictated by their relevant spell discription, you shouldn't necessarily assume that "ability description" implicitly includes "spell description."
House rule it different than anything else written thus far! Make the default activation time 2½ rounds!
sledged, I fail to see why you are arguing w/Hong... other then the fact that you like to see him get his back up.sledged said:Because there are several factors of SLAs that aren't dictated by their relevant spell discription, you shouldn't necessarily assume that "ability description" implicitly includes "spell description."
Then for you the PHB trumps the other two sources, and the answer becomes perfectly clear:
House rule it different than anything else written thus far! Make the default activation time 2½ rounds!
sledged said:Then for you the PHB trumps the other two sources, and the answer becomes perfectly clear:
House rule it different than anything else written thus far! Make the default activation time 2½ rounds!