Trailer Star Trek: Discovery - Official Season 5 Trailer

[CapnZapp]

This is a general issue when you have shows that are written with an ongoing plot season-long in mind. You'd probably have the same problem with Picard.

You're liable to get more out of Strange New Worlds, which has largely been deliberately kept to a more episodic approach, with some carry-over plots.

Yes, Picard suffers from the same problem as Discovery. Rushing ahead, action galore, blockbuster stakes, saving the world, no time to catch your breath and generate some Trek-like atmosphere

SNW on the other hand, is excellent Trek!

 

[Umbran]

Yes, the McFlurry is a well know product offered by McDonald's, but it is not the point of McDonald's.

Fine, then let us refine the analogy - Disco isn't an entire McDonalds. It is the McFlurry machine.

Star Trek has many things in it, like the McDonalds menu. Not every show has to be all those things. A bit of diversity among them is a good thing.

 

[Morrus]

I just want them to go back in time and reverse the 'Federation fails' thing. Because Star Trek to me is about a hopeful future, and knowing that doesn't work out puts a bit of a downer on all the other shows. For me, at least. I don't have to know the Federation lasts, but I don't want to know for sure that it doesn't.

(I know, I know, 'technically' that's still the Federation. But it's not!)

 

[MarkB]

I just want them to go back in time and reverse the 'Federation fails' thing. Because Star Trek to me is about a hopeful future, and knowing that doesn't work out puts a bit of a downer on all the other shows. For me, at least. I don't have to know the Federation lasts, but I don't want to know for sure that it doesn't.

(I know, I know, 'technically' that's still the Federation. But it's not!)

I'm not sure "doesn't last a thousand years" can be considered a failure, by the standards of pretty much any civilisation in history.

 

[Morrus]

I'm not sure "doesn't last a thousand years" can be considered a failure, by the standards of pretty much any civilisation in history.

Sure. I feel differently. For me it's like prequels when you know how it ends, and it's not good. YMMV.

 

[MarkB]

Sure. I feel differently. For me it's like prequels when you know how it ends, and it's not good. YMMV.

It hasn't ended yet.

 

[Morrus]

It hasn't ended yet.

Like I said, I hope they go back in time and undo that.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Yeah, Picard definitely hasn't sounded like my cup of tea. I was thinking Lower Decks might be my next foray back into Trek, but SNW sounds promising.

Lower Decks is fun as long as you can work with the fact its a comedy.

FWIW, I do like season long arcs as long as they're balanced with things that happen on a weekly basis. Things like BtVS or Supernatural are fine (well, some seasons of Supernatural are better than others).

Yeah, but those shows also had a basically episodic approach with a thread of ongoing plot. Its a different dynamic.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Yes, Picard suffers from the same problem as Discovery. Rushing ahead, action galore, blockbuster stakes, saving the world, no time to catch your breath and generate some Trek-like atmosphere

SNW on the other hand, is excellent Trek!

I quite like them both, but I can easily see the difference in approach.

 

[Thomas Shey]

I just want them to go back in time and reverse the 'Federation fails' thing. Because Star Trek to me is about a hopeful future, and knowing that doesn't work out puts a bit of a downer on all the other shows. For me, at least. I don't have to know the Federation lasts, but I don't want to know for sure that it doesn't.

(I know, I know, 'technically' that's still the Federation. But it's not!)

See, to me, the fact they get up, dust themselves off, and move on is hopeful. Something went wrong in a big way, they took a while to recover (but parts continued the good fight) and they succeeded. I don't see how you can call the Fed at the end of Discovery anything but a continuation of the older version; they just had a period when they were heavily backfooted.