[Star Wars] Out ESB...ESB???

takasi

First Post
Another thing I dislike about The Empire Strikes Back is that it established a serial nature to the series. What if Star Wars sequels had been very episodic, opening the idea of future stories that do not need a chronological order? In fact, what if Star Wars had become a TV series instead, with the movie simply being a pilot? And what if it became one of the very rare television series to make every episode a two hour show? Now imagine that they made a hundred episodes, and that there's an RPG system that covers this new universe.

Do you have any random episode ideas? Again, the only canon allowed is from A New Hope, and you can steal any blockbuster movie idea that came out after 1980.

Star Wars Episode V Gremlins

OK, so why do we have to wait until the third movie to see the second Death Star in action? Shouldn't this have been an essential part of the follow up? This is 'Death Star 2', wouldn't that have been a better marketing idea?

Using the stolen plans in the first movie, the Rebels have been working on a 'Freedom Star' to protect themselves from the Empire. The heroes from the first movie arrive on a small jungle planet to appeal to the leaders of the Rebellion to stop this arms race. While there Luke befriends a small, lone 'Ewok' (and Chewbacca soon develops jealousy issues). Unable to persuade the leadership, the crew heads to the new Space Station.

Luke brings his Ewok friend, and on the way there he begins to teach it the ways of the Force. This creature has some type of strange force sensitivity. Every time it uses Force Magic (which can be any type of crazy reality bending stuff) it multiplies. At first some of the magic is cute and innocent, but with each generation these new creatures become more and more evil. One of them murders a red shirt and eats him, and then hides and goes into a metamorphosis phase. It bursts out of its cocoon as a cross between a Rancor, Gremlin and Wookie, towering at just over Chewbacca's height. It begins using the force to multiply itself over and over.

The Gremlins hyjack the Freedom Star and the heroes can barely escape with their lives. As several planets are recklessly destroyed, the heroes ignore the warnings of the Rebel leadership and appeal to the Empire for help. They meet with Darth Vader, who agrees to work together with them to stop the rogue weapon. Vader double crosses the group once they gain control of the Freedom Star, but they end up setting it to self destruct before the Empire can claim it.

Like any episodic tv show, most of the loose ends are tied up by the end, with the status quo preserved for future episodes.

I would love to see the Force redefined as much more powerful sorcery. It could be able to do anything, similar to more traditional fantasy stories. One central theme of the show could be magic vs technology. Vader could even be at odds with the Emperor in this regard. The Jedi religion could still be very prominent, with priest-sorcerers still having a presence of power (they just lack a military force). The religious leaders could even be neutral on the topic of war.

If Hollywood can reboot Star Trek, why not Star Wars? In my opinion the best way to do this is to throw out canon from all of the sequels.
 

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If Hollywood can reboot Star Trek, why not Star Wars? In my opinion the best way to do this is to throw out canon from all of the sequels.

Well, that might be an interesting topic. Why it is not happening? Star Wars is still succesful, I suppose, and George Lucas is still around controlling his franchise. Ask again in 20 to 40 years why if it hadn't happen since then.
 



scourger

Explorer
In my alternate Star Wars, the heroes are sent on a secret mission to recover two droids on their planet of Tatooine. They are to deliver the droids to Bail Organa on Alderaan. Thus begins their assumption of the roles of the characters in A New Hope.

What they know is that the Republic has split. Two groups, the Republic and the Empire, war for supremacy. The jedi, led by masters Yoda and Obi Wan Kenobi, are their covert contacts. Obi Wan might even need a fighter escort as he blasts his way out of Mos Isley aboard the Millenium Falcon.

What they don't know is that there is no more Darth Vader. He was slain by Obi Wan Kenobi. Pincess Leia and Prince Skywalker are the Emperor's enforcers now. Luke is a sith lord, but Leia is a foil in the James Bond tradition. The heroes never know where her allegiance lies, but she looks great in a metal bikini wielding a force blade.

The people they meet along the way may help them or hurt them. Han Solo & Chewbacca probably don't help. Lando probably helps more. Who knows where the action might take them.

And this is why I can never part with my complete-plus collection of Rebel Storm minis.
 

MarkB

Legend
One thing worth considering if you're using only the Episode IV continuity is the Force.

As presented there, it's almost exclusively a mental ability - it can expand a person's perception, allowing them to attack or defend intuitively, and it can influence the thoughts and attitude of the weak-minded. The closest we see to a physical manifestation is Vader choking an Imperial officer, and even that could be purely a mental effect - convincing him that he was unable to breathe as a form of torture.

So, do any of the later, flashier uses of the Force exist? Can it lift starfighters, or even rocks? Can it cast lightning bolts? Or is it purely a mind-affecting power?
 

Gentlegamer

Adventurer
The original movie Star Wars novelisation has a lot of good material in it. For instance. Emperor Palpatine appears to be a corrupt politician ("The cries of the people for justice did not reach his ears"), but not a Dark Lord of the Sith. Vader is a powerful Sith Lord - but just one among many, it looks like. The Imperial Moffs and the military appear to be a much more proactive force, not just the emperor's lackeys as they became later.

Look at Grand Moff Tarkin, and what he represents: Science. Reason. Progress. Technological Terror.

Then compare that to Leia, a political leader of the insurgency. And Obi-Wan - last priest of a dead religion.

Imagine if the likes of Tarkin and the military junta, not Vader and the Sith, were the true villains of the trilogy.
It's like you've read my mind!

Years ago, I had plans for a "prequel era" campaign, before the films were released. It was to more heavily "political" than what had been seen in the canon Star Wars films, with Grand Moff Tarkin and other military/political figures as the main antagonists (Mon Mothma and Bail Organa figured as important protagonists). I was taking inspiration from things in the novelization of the original Star Wars film, as well as the common source of historical Roman/Nazi regime change from republic to empire.

After "Phantom Menace," I started and soon abandoned a "rewrite" of the film with the above in mind.
 

pawsplay

Hero
What if the other movies were never made? Would Darth Vader be considered more or less of a badass than he already is?

There would be no Imperial March. We would have astoundingly little evidence that Vader's view of the supremacy of the Force was justified (what, you choke a few people, then get out-piloted by a space cowboy? yeah, real ultimate power there, Vader).

However, the Stormtrooper's stock would rise quite a bit. Apart from the escape sequence, which we learn was orchestrated by Tarkin and Vader, we see the Stormtroopers kill a whole lot of people with a great deal of efficiency.
 

Doug McCrae

Legend
The Clone Wars really needs to be re-defined as a long term series of wars, spanning many generations, fought against an outside enemy (like the Ssi-Ruuk from Truce at Bakura, or the Hapes Cluster from Courtship of Princess Leia), and fought with clones on both sides.
I see the Clone Wars as the Punic Wars of the SW Universe. The Punic Wars were the greatest battles of the Roman Republic, before it became the Empire, fought over a 120 year period. Punic means Carthaginian so there could just have been clones on one side. The natural assumption is that the clones are the baddies, fighting the Republic, an assumption that was subverted by the prequels.
 

Cyronax

Explorer
When I heard 'clone wars' as a kid it was in the 80's and I figured the clones were special warriors used by multiple/both (?) sides as force multipliers and great shock troopes.

The term 'Clone Wars' was so evocative and somehow botched in the prequels. That said, I still enjoyed the prequels despite their imperfections.

C.I.D.
 

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