Typical Animals?

[MythandLore]

Lame, I just notice animals can't get feats.
So I have to do them x4 because they can't get Run Feat.
Oh well, it only makes the animal's base speed faster.

Cheetah
Top speed 65mph (x4 = 650ft)
Normal 16.25mph (162.5ft)

Pronghorn Antelope
Top speed 55mph (x4 = 550ft)
Normal 13.75mph (137.5ft)

Mongolian gazelle
Top speed 50mph (x4 = 500ft)
Normal 12.5mph (125ft)

Springbok
Top speed 50mph (x4 = 500ft)
Normal 12.5mph (125ft)

Grant's gazelle
Top speed 47mph (x4 = 470ft)
Normal 11.75mph (117.5ft)

Thomson's gazelle
Top speed 47mph (x4 = 470ft)
Normal 11.75mph (117.5ft)

Brown hare
Top speed 45mph (x4 = 450ft)
Normal 11.25mph (112.5ft)

American Quarter Horse
Top speed 43mph (x4 = 430ft)
Normal 10.75mph (107.5ft)

Greyhound
Top speed 42mph (x4 = 420ft)
Normal 10.5mph (105ft)

Red deer
Top speed 42mph (x4 = 420ft)
Normal 10.5mph (105ft)

 

[MythandLore]

A few fast flying animal speeds.

Australian Dragonfly (inscet)
Top speed 36mph (x4 = 360ft)
Normal 9mph (90ft)

Horsefly (inscet)
Top speed 90mph (x4 = 900ft)
Normal 22.5mph (225ft)

Red-Breasted Merganser (bird)
Top speed 80mph (x4 = 800ft)
Normal 20mph (200ft)

White-throated needle-tailed Swift (bird)
Top speed 106mph (x4 = 1060ft)
Normal 26.5mph (265ft)

Im not sure how to do a diving 45 degrees peregrine falcon (bird) at 117mph

 

[Clint]

MythandLore, this is a great start.

Are these the average speeds for each animal, or the fastest clocked speeds?

 

[MythandLore]

MythandLore, this is a great start.

Are these the average speeds for each animal, or the fastest clocked speeds?

Average Fastest clocked speeds for the most part.
A good example is the American Quarter Horse (fastest sprinting horse in the world - it WILL beat any other breed in a quarter mile run)
Top speed 43mph (x4 = 430ft)
Normal 10.75mph (107.5ft)
The Fastest American Quarter Horse ever was 43.+ miles per hour.
For the most part there is a max high range for animals people etc.
That's why races can be won in thousandths of a second.
Even if some thing is a few seconds behind it's in a close range, as if dnd has much space for range.
Solid numbers on animal speeds are hard to come by.
The more people study animals, the more they find they don't know about them.

 

[ColonelHardisson]

I remember that in one of the previous editions - 1e or 2e - that the movement rates presupposed that the movement was being done carefully. That is, moving warily, keeping eyes and ears open for danger, moving in such a way so as to avoid presenting a wide-open target. I don't think the same is exactly true in 3e, but it might be good to either consider that when calculating real movement rates so as not to have to change all move rates for everything, or, as mentioned, change the move rates for everything.

 

[MythandLore]

change the move rates for everything.

???
Have I listed things that need to be changed?
Though it is very clear now the fastest runners in the world today would be slower then a barbarian with the run feat.

 

[ColonelHardisson]

???

I wasn't necessarily commenting on what you posted; it just happened to remind me of something I had thought about before when real world speeds of creatures were posted.

 

[MythandLore]

???

I wasn't necessarily commenting on what you posted; it just happened to remind me of something I had thought about before when real world speeds of creatures were posted.

Oh, okay, you had me all confused for a while there.

 

[Clint]

Typical Animals v1

Hi, all. Been trying to post this all day, but the boards have been loaded.

Here's my first shot at these creatures. I'm open to suggestions.

Refresher course on Animals: [BAB: as cleric, skills: 10-15, feats: -, good saves: Fort and/or Reflex]

I made a note on the animals that I chose a good Fort/Ref save.

Domesticated animals, the kind that you find on farms, have no CR. Kill a million chickens, you won't go up a level.

Chicken (domestic); CR -; Tiny Animal; HD 1d8-1; hp 3; Init +1; Spd 20ft, fly 20ft. (poor); AC 13 (+2 Size, +1 Dex); Atks +0 melee (1d3-3 peck); AL N; SV Fort +1 (good), Ref +3 (good), Will -2; Str 4, Dex 13, Con 8, Int 1, Wis 6, Cha 10.
Cow (domestic): CR 1/4; Medium Animal; HD 2d8+2; hp 10; Init -2; Spd 20ft; AC 8 (-2 Dex); Atks +2 melee (1d4+1 bite); AL N; SV Fort +3 (good), Ref -2, Will -3; Str 13, Dex 6, Con 13, Int 1, Wis 4, Cha 10.
Pig (domestic): CR -; Small Animal; HD 1d8+2; hp 6; Init +0; Spd 20ft; AC 10; Atks -2 melee (1d3-2 bite); SQ Resistant to Disease?; AL N; SV Fort +4 (good), Ref +2 (good), Will -3; Str 7, Dex 11, Con 14, Int 2, Wis 4, Cha 8.
Falcon (domestic): CR -; Tiny Animal; HD 1d8; hp 4; Init +1; Spd 60ft fly (good); AC 13 (+2 size, +1 dex); Atks -3 (1d4-3 bite); AL N; SV Fort -1, Ref +3 (good), Will -3; Str 4, Dex 12, Con 8, Int 2, Wis 4, Cha 6.
Parrot: CR -; Tiny Animal; HD 1d8-1; hp 3; Init +0; Spd fly 30ft (good); AC 12 (+2 size); Atks -3 melee (1d3-3 peck); SQ Imitate Language; AL N; SV Fort -1, Ref +2 (good), Will -1; Str 4, Dex 11, Con 9, Int 2, Wis 8, Cha 12.

Goat (mountain): CR 1/2; Small Animal; HD 2d8+2; hp 11; Init +0; Spd 30ft, climb 20ft.; AC 12 (+1 size, +1 natural); Atks +1 (bite 1d4); AL N; SV Fort +4 (good), Ref +3 (good), Will -3; Str 10, Dex 10, Con 12, Int 2, Wis 4, Cha 4. +10 racial bonus to climb checks.
Bull: CR 1; Large Animal; HD 3d8+9; hp 21; Init +1 (Dex); Spd 30ft; AC 12 (+3 natural, -1 size); Atks +6 melee (1d6+6 slam); AL N; SV Fort +6 (good), Ref +4 (good), Will -1; Str 18, Dex 12, Con 16, Int 2, Wis 6, Cha 10. Face 5ft by 10ft.
Elk: CR 1; Medium Animal; HD 3d8+3; hp 17; Init +1; Spd 40ft; AC 12 (+1 natural, +1 dex); Atks +4 (1d6+3 bite); AL N; SV Fort +5 (good), Ref +4 (good), Will +0; Str 15, Dex 13, Con 15, Int 2, Wis 8, Cha 8.
Ram: CR 2; Large Animal; HD 4d8+8; hp 26; Init ; Spd 30ft; AC 12 (+3 natural, -1 size); Atks +6 (1d8+4 slam); SA Ram Charge; AL N; SV Fort +7 (good), Ref +4 (good), Will -1; Str 17, Dex 10, Con 15, Int 2, Wis 6, Cha 10. SA: Ram Charge: Charge increases damage to 2d8+4. Face 5ft by 10ft.

Mouse: CR -; Fine Vermin; HD 1d8-3; hp 1; Init ; Spd 30ft; AC 20 (+8 size, +2 Dex); Atks +0 melee (1 dam bite); AL N; SV Fort -3, Ref +4, Will -3; Str 1, Dex 14, Con 4, Int 2, Wis 4, Cha 8.

 

[Shir'kazan]

Feats and animals

Lame, I just notice animals can't get feats.

I'm afraid they do have Feats. Look at the amount of Weapon Finesse (Bite) they have.