What advantages do a Cleric have over a Necromancer

[jarlaxlecq]

Just curious

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

They can create souled, intelligent undead, in addition to the mindless undead wizards can. They can do that earlier.

They can rebuke / command / bolster their own and other's undead.

They have better and more spells dealing with Postive and Negative energy.

 

[Sejs]

Other than say, 'round about all of them? Death cleric has better hd, better saves, better ba, better armor. Spells per day are comparable, the necro's spec bonus slots balancing out with the domain slots the cleric gets. The cleric can rebuke undead, heal his undead with inflict spells, can buff his undead with desecrate, and gets animate dead at 3rd rather than 4th.


The UA necro varients are nice though.

 

[jarlaxlecq]

They can create souled, intelligent undead, in addition to the mindless undead wizards can. They can do that earlier.

They can rebuke / command / bolster their own and other's undead.

They have better and more spells dealing with Postive and Negative energy.

well Necros get Create Undead at the same level that Clerics get it i think the differance is that undead created in that fashion aren't automatically on the caster side, they need to rebuke it or cast a spell that lets you control it. I suppose thats pretty important.

I wonder why creating undead is "better" as a cleric. Its all about focusing negative energy. Thats just another plane, nothing divine about it. I hope the complete arcane has a real Necromancer.

 

[jarlaxlecq]

Spells per day are comparable, the necro's spec bonus slots balancing out with the domain slots the cleric gets. The cleric can rebuke undead, heal his undead with inflict spells, can buff his undead with desecrate, and gets animate dead at 3rd rather than 4th.


The UA necro varients are nice though.

Ok thats a pretty good answer, what does the UA varient get?

 

[welby]

My UA varient Necro gets a Skeleton instead of his familiar. Said skeleton grows in power as the necro levels. Right now, mine does hardly any damage, but acts as a great tank, especially with damage reduction.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

well Necros get Create Undead at the same level that Clerics get it

Sorry. 3.0 holdover. Create Undead and Create Greater Undead used to be Cleric-only.

Clerics get Animate Dead as a 3rd-level spell, while arcanists get it at 4th.

 

[Darklone]

Well... the D&D necros only had undeads for style reasons. They are dangerous because they are wizards

Clerics haven't been that strong offensively in earlier editions.