Imaro
Legend
So if any expects that I will ever yield an inch after being the guy that had nothing to do with starting it, they're sadly mistaken. Put down your weapons and go home.
Uhm... ok.
Fine, but you aren't buying it now, presumably you aren't playing it now, and presumably it is of no interest to you, yet here you are in a thread about the future of a game you could care less about! Its certainly true that you are welcome to post here, and I'd say you might even have something interesting to say about the actual thread topic, but I'm mystified as to why anyone would spend their time dissing a dead game. If you want to start a thread with the topic "All who were dissatisfied with 4e vent here" I'm happy to just not even open that thread...
I care about the future of the game in a sit back and see what happens to it sort of way, and for me that's enough to post my own thoughts on it and see if what I think comes to pass... What I don't get is if the OP wanted only positive opinions on the fate of 4e why that wasn't stated? It was a general question open to all and I'm sorry but you don't get to decide who should and shouldn't post in it...
Well, I'm not directing negativity at any other games. I'll be frank and say I've pointed out the shortcomings of previous editions of D&D in threads, in an illustrative way, not to complain about them or WotC for writing them, etc but just to explain how 4e was different. And yes, if you said that the negativity directed at 4e wasn't 'over the top' I would just put a few appropriate emoticons next to that and roll my eyes. You and I both know it was drastically over the top.
All I'm doing is posting my dissatisfaction and criticisms of the game... why do you have a right to do that, but I don't??
I'm just saying, whatever you call it, 5e or whatever, that there was a game in there somewhere that was satisfying to both sides, IF they would stop being dorks. Some people just seem to be unable to let go. Thanks a whole lot for that!
Kettle...
I don't have to 'reconcile' anything. You have no interest in reconciliation so why is that my job? I don't see any reason why the default expected solution can't be the one I like and its still possible to bend it in a number of ways without breaking it. If you want to meet on that common ground, give an inch.
Pot...
I see, you just want to h4te, not actually make any good faith effort to have a community where there's some dialog and some agreement on a common game system that we all could enjoy together. I've never suggested that it should be up to YOU to sit down and make the game you like out of a game you didn't like. I only stated that everyone should have been willing to enter into that process in good faith. I don't think that happened. 5e isn't the result of a good faith effort to bring together the elements of different editions that we could all enjoy together, it was nothing but a purge of the heretics. So no point was missed, except by you IMHO. Just remember, I offered the olive branch, you didn't take it.
LMAO!! What olive branch... that I should play 4e (See the post above this one)... It had it's chance and for whatever reason it's time is over how about you practice what you preach... but then again it's always easier to blame others.... at least I'm honest about my dislike of 4e and don't pretend I'm actually looking for a game to accomodate everybody when in fact I really just want the game I enjoy...