Kalamar - first published 4e setting?!?

[Fenes]

And your point about English is relevant to what anyone else said, how?

To repeat it: For some, the dreaded syllables from KoK sound as strange or right as the English names touted as better.

 

[WhatGravitas]

...or used to use foreign names (like the aforementioned English) without translating them into their native language - since, you know, that would sound a bit silly in many cases.

Even then, the names are usually put into a more compatible form that fits the language it is used in - and English is a special case, because it's so widespread, hence it's less often translated.

Plus, there's a creeping anglisation of German in your case!

Cheers, LT.

 

[hong]

To repeat it: For some, the dreaded syllables from KoK sound as strange or right as the English names touted as better.

To repeat. Some people do syllables well. Consider Guild Wars, Warcraft, Starcraft, Pathfinder, even Greyhawk.

Nobody said anything about English. Play some GW: Nightfall or GW: Factions if you don't know what I mean.

 

[Fenes]

To repeat. Some people do syllables well. Consider Guild Wars, Warcraft, Starcraft, Pathfinder, even Greyhawk.

Nobody said anything about English. Play some GW: Nightfall or GW: Factions if you don't know what I mean.

Some people do syllables in a way hong likes. Some people do syllables in a way others like. That doesn't mean either does them well or not well.

And I said something about English, to stress the point that what is "dread syllables" to you sounds nice to others, and vice versa.

(I wonder if all those Elven names know how german people pronounce "ae" by default.)

 

[hong]

Some people do syllables in a way hong likes. Some people do syllables in a way others like. That doesn't mean either does them well or not well.

Ah, this explains all those ppl complaining about the syllables in Guild Wars, Warcraft, Starcraft, Pathfinder, even Greyhawk.

 

[Fenes]

Complaints about KoK names are about as valid as complaints about the naming conventions of 4E. I do remember some complaints about Greyhawk names. I never bothered with GW, but a lot of Fantasy names sound stupid to me - and some sound stupid once they are translated.

("Waterdeep" - "Tiefwasser")

 

[hong]

Complaints about KoK names are about as valid as complaints about the naming conventions of 4E.

Yes. And...?

 

[Fenes]

Yes. And...?

It means that once you leave the assumption behind that your own taste is relevant for the rest of the world, you get a bit more tolerant with regards of "syllables", rendering most complaints about "syllables" pointless.

Basically, you're complaining that exotic names sound exotic, and may be hard to pronounce. Something people outside the US and the UK already deal with daily when reading English texts, and which may actually be a feature for some people - especially since pronouncing those KoK words isn't an issue for most German speakers.

 

[hong]

It means that once you leave the assumption behind that your own taste is relevant for the rest of the world, you get a bit more tolerant with regards of "syllables", rendering most complaints about "syllables" pointless.

So. Point me to all those ppl complaining about the syllables in Guild Wars, Warcraft, Starcraft, Pathfinder, even Greyhawk.

Basically, you're complaining that exotic names sound exotic, and may be hard to pronounce. Something people outside the US and the UK already deal with daily when reading English texts, and which may actually be a feature for some people - especially since pronouncing those KoK words isn't an issue for most German speakers.

The issue is not whether these names are hard to pronounce. These names sound stupid. This is because they look like random conglomerations of syllables, even if the rules governing those syllables happen to be the result of excessive thinkerising.

 

[Fenes]

So. Point me to all those ppl complaining about the syllables in Guild Wars, Warcraft, Starcraft, Pathfinder, even Greyhawk.

Why?

The issue is not whether these names are hard to pronounce. These names sound stupid. This is because they look like random conglomerations of syllables, even if the rules governing those syllables happen to be the result of excessive thinkerising.

"Sound stupid" is a very subjective term. You don't like the names, others like them. And by now everyone knows you dislike the names.

That doesn't even remotedly make your claim that they are stupid true.